Hiclone Performance
Submitted: Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:59
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Puttingdave00
I have a 2007 Falcon 6 cyl Ute which I tow a caravan of approx 2000kg's, while the vehicle has sufficient power I am looking for something to improve the fuel economy, Would any of you caravanners out there have any suggestions for me please. Also has any one had any experience with a Hiclone and how did it perform?
Thanks
Puttingdave
Reply By: Tenpounder (SA) - Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:32
Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:32
Hi there. I am not going to comment on the Hiclone. Except to say that many others on this site have been less than enthusiastic.
In general, I really cannot over-emphasise the difference speed has made to our fuel economy. We have a Prado towing a 1.5 tonne caravan. Headwinds are, of course, a disaster!! But the saving in fuel from cutting back from around 90 to about 85 or 80 is major. And, on those occasions where I plant the foot, to make up time, the effect of 100 compared to 85 is huge (like an extra 3+ litres per 100km).
We have a low profile Pop Top, and I suspect the effect of speed is even greater with a full height caravan.
Incidentally, for us, the consumption in hilly country isn't too bad, and we just change down and keep the revs up, and the consumption does not seem to fall off much. But that will vary between vehicles, I imagine.
Hope this helps.
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Follow Up By: Puttingdave00 - Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 21:56
Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 21:56
Thanks Chris and all the other people who contributed, there is a lot of doubt about the Hiclone and it's performance , so I will probably look at an improved exhaust system. As my wife is disabled the Falcon is about the only vehicle she can get into (all 4 x 4's are to high for her) so I have very few options with tow vehicles.
Thanks and Best Wishes
Puttingdave
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Reply By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 13:40
Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 13:40
Yep I would support the comments made above by Chris 100%. The difference in fuel used per 100 Ks towing our van with a loaded weight of about 1800 Kg at 80 to 85 KMH compared to 95 to 100 KMH equates to a saving of about 3 Litres per Ks.
Increase in travel time between destinations is insignificant & you enjoy the trip more. We keep an eye out the back and allow every opportunity for faster moving traffic to get past us and it is rare when opportunities don't present themselves to give this courtesy to other road users,particularly trucks.
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Reply By: Member - ross m (WA) - Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 13:49
Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 13:49
My old landcruiser 3F engine had a hiclown in it when I bought it.
I tested it for 3 months with and 3 months without and it showed no difference in fuel consumption.
These and many other fuel saver gadgets have been
well and truly debunked by many experts.
Mercedes spent a hundred million to get one of their engines to increase its efficiency by 1% and Hiclown claims they can get 10-15% for $100 LOL
Its about time the govt forced these companies to live up to their claims or shut them down
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Follow Up By: racinrob - Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 14:32
Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 14:32
Couldn't agree more with your comments
ross. I keep a log of fuel/kilometres, I fitted a Hiclown (sic) made absolutely no difference.
Rob
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Reply By: Secret Mens Business - Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 14:10
Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 14:10
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Reply By: DarcyNavara - Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 14:24
Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 14:24
I have tested the Hiclone on the dyno and made absolutely no difference,
I can justify their theories with the vortex effect, but it will only work in a straight portion of tube. Once it enters the manifold or plenum, the air flow is quickly broken and split, and then only rely's on the vacuum produced from the engine itself. (with that its totally up to the design of the port shape and venturie speed that does the work) not some product in the intake tube.......
I have also tried the Fitch........................um,!
I had tried the unit for 4mths....as Mr Bill, wanted me to become an agent. So I wanted to
test the product, before taking this on.
I Didn't get any benifit from the unit,no improvement in fuel economy or power, it did actually reduce smoke, and they tell you it reduces emissions...
My theory to that is: it seems to restrict the fuel flow, especially on diesels, thats why there is less smoke.
The other testimonials all come from the Qld, where uses did notice gains..
But the same old story, If fuel quality is below par your not going to get good performance or economy.
So if you buy good fuel, you will always get benifits, you buy crap you will pay the price.
Regards Reedy
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Reply By: Dave(NSW) - Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 15:32
Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 15:32
Try this one.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ed. C. (QLD) - Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 15:40
Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 15:40
I hope ya patented that before putting it out into the 'Public Domain'.......
Now you've let the cat outa the bag, every-one's gunna want one........
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Reply By: Fatso - Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 19:18
Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 19:18
I wouldn't worry too much about your fuel economy Dave.
The way I see it. There are 2 reasons to make your vehicle more fuel efficiant.
ONE IS TO SAVE MONEY
If you can get an improvement of 2 L/100 it is only going to save you $40 on a trip between
Brisbane &
Cairns. Spread over a 3 week trip that is less about $2/day. Thats not much. You will save much more by shopping wisely for your beer. A much more important purchase than fuel.
THE SECOND ONE IS BRAGGING RIGHTS
This is the one that realy counts.
All you gotta do is wait until everyone else in the van park has been stupid enough to lay their cards on the table & bull bleep to them that you are getting way better fuel economy. Works every time mate.
Everyone is doing it but where you will succeed is that not many people are towing with Falcons, so it is hard for 4x4 drivers to dispute.
You are sitting on a virtual GOLD
MINE there mate.
You will be the envy of everyone. A true legend.
King of the park.
Just don't brag too much around Falcon drivers & you will be right.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian W (NSW) - Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 21:27
Friday, Dec 11, 2009 at 21:27
ROFLMAO
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