80 Series Tram Tracking
Submitted: Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 15:46
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Lloyd M
Hi, as the topic headline goes I have an 80 Series DX Wagon that tram tracks on the road surface and generally wonders. I have spent quite some money on the old girl and want to fix this before something happens. I have rebuilt the front end and I'm sure it is not worn steering linkages etc. The wagon is raised about 2" to 3", has air bags in the rear coils, carries full bar work, steps, winch, 280 Litres of diesel, roof rack & 2 rear tyre carriers &
wheels. The tyres on it are BFG AT 235 X 85 X 16" on the original split-rims. Would putting wider tyres & rims on her fix this ? All replies would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Lloyd.
Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 16:18
Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 16:18
Lloyd,
Looks like you might have to change the trailing arm bushes on the front. The caster is out because of the
suspension lift and the front
wheels don't track. Just like some shopping trolleys.
Fitting off set caster bushes will roll the front diff to bring back the correct caster. Off set caster bushes are available from most 4WD and
suspension shops.
Wayne
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Reply By: Glenndini - Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 16:38
Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 16:38
I wonder what it wonders about when it's tram tracking?
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 17:50
Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 17:50
It probably wonders why its wandering and where the trams went
LOL
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Reply By: Member - reggy 2 (VIC) - Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 20:25
Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 20:25
HI LLOYD
I have been in the same predickerment twice the first i changed bushes as already been stated in upper thread worked fine 8 out 10
the second time i had off set bearings put in left hand hub 7 out 10
if i had to do it again i would go bushes
my main problem was scrubbing left hand tyre
i run the same size as you when offroading and 265/70 on mags on bituman,it handles 9 out 10.i went to solid rims as they balance better and when running low tyre pressures it does not rub tubes (tubless) rv rims or sunraiser
i hope this helps cheers reggy2
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Follow Up By: Member - DOZER- Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 09:19
Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 09:19
Its worth mentioning here that this mod is carried out when a small bend in the diff housing gives irregular settings on one side, leading to the steering pulling to one side and irregular tyre wear.
Check your panhard rod bolts are tight. bushes are not coming appart etc. If you dont have caster correction bushes in it, that is most probably the cause of the tram tracking
Andrew
ps...lastly, the 90\91 models had a bad habbit of cracking the chassis at the steering box.
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Follow Up By: Horacehighroller - Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 10:56
Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 10:56
Scrubbing of the outside of the left front tyre is not uncommon.
Rumour has it that Toyota put the same front axle assembly in our RHD models as they do in LHD models.
Thus the factory camber setting on the LH front is not suitable for our left-sloping roads.
Peter
HZJ 105 (Prev. HZJ 80)
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Reply By: vk1dx - Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 20:50
Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 20:50
I can't help but think that the wheel alignment may be off somewhere. I would assume you have had it checked at a good workshop.
I may be wrong but thought it wouldn't hurt to mention this. Best of luck I have been spun through 90 degrees by tram tracks a long time ago and it kind of gave me the willies.
Phil
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Reply By: jeff360 - Tuesday, Dec 15, 2009 at 15:58
Tuesday, Dec 15, 2009 at 15:58
i had the same problem, the tires were about shot, in the mean time i went through every stearing and suspention component all seemed ok, put a new set of tires on and no more problem
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