Anyone tried a "Porta Jump" Emergency Jump Starter/

Submitted: Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 18:54
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Has anyone tried one of these units ?
They sure are tiny, charge through the ciggie plug, much easier than jumper leads, and you dont need a "donor car".
Google finds plenty of references but all are what I would call sales pitch, with no hard specifics like capacity, time to charge dead battery etc. I have seen one in Mitre 10 and Supercheap also have them (about $50). They sure are small, and could be a great bit of gear, especially for the wives, but why no hard specs, not even on the package?

http://www.porta-jump.com/

http://www.supercheapauto.co.nz/products/porta-jump.aspx

They do point out that it will only charge a flat battery, not a broken one.
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Reply By: howesy - Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 19:03

Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 19:03
Havent had any actual experience with them BUT,,,,


Call me old fashioned but I wouldnt like to be putting a one or two hundred amp surge through a 10 amp cigarette lighter wire on its way to the battery.
I presume thats what a dead battery is going to want to draw to start the car. Go a good quality 1000amp porta pak or top class jumper leads.
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 20:47

Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 20:47
The little gizmo does not actually start the car - it is used to put just enough charge into the battery to allow the battery to start the car. If the battery was in good condition and just run flat it should charge enough.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony S (WA) - Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 23:41

Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 23:41
Ditto that Howesy I have a Porta-power. Not cheap but worth every cent.
It is Swiss made too!
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Reply By: Rockape - Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 19:15

Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 19:15
White man magic. Seelink.
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Follow Up By: Member - Allan B (QLD) - Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 00:46

Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 00:46
"killed my battery by listening to the radio with the car off"

Must have been Heavy Rock! LOL

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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 07:28

Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 07:28
Half the users said it worked - the other half said it didn't !

Are you feeling very lucky ?
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 08:44

Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 08:44
But wait there is more.

For an extra nine ninety five, YES!!!! only an extra nine ninety five, it comes with the latest super conductor technology and we will also throw in a survival carton and back up chook.
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 08:51

Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 08:51
Mike DID,

Interesting mixed results - clearly it does work as it did for some people - I suspect for the others the battery had actually failed and in some of the others user error is a possible cause. Like not giving it enough time to charge or not understanding the battery must still be good.

Also I have problems using it in the standard lighter socket as I have to have ignition on and there are a whole bunch of car electrics also come on. If it were mine I would either have a special socket direct to the battery or change the fittings so it clips straight to the battery.

For the price worth a try but with some changes.

Garry
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Reply By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 19:47

Saturday, Dec 12, 2009 at 19:47
Yep got 2 the 900 & 1200. Gave Dad the 900amp one. Prior to having a 2nd battery in the car we used to use the jump pack to power the fridge overnight. Lasted 4 days.

Also used it to jump start a few cars. You need to note that once you've jump started a vehicle you'll need to recharge the battery pack.

A good cheap investment.
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 07:29

Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 07:29
Cigarette Lighter sockets are fused at 15 amps as well as having an internal thermal fuse.

I wouldn't count on that to charge my battery in an emergency.
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Reply By: Member - Nolo (Brisbane) - Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 07:54

Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 07:54
Derek at ABR has a device which charges a flat battery here-
ABR Car to Car charger
I have used it and it works great but dont ask me to explain the electronics.

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Reply By: drowned_rat - Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 12:37

Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 12:37
This works by charging your main battery through the cigarette lighter before starting the car.

I see a number of issues with this sort of device:

(1) If your car battery has died then nothing like this is going to start your car.
(2) The device is rechargable, as with all rechargable batteries, they go flat on their own and require frequent recharging in order to be effective. You buy the unit, throw it in the glove box. Is it going to work 2 years down the track when you finally need it?
(3) If you battery is dead flat after leaving the headlights on all day then it probably wont have enough power in it to get the battery in a charged up enough state to start your car.
(4) If you are one who leaves the headlights on, then it may be better to fit a headlight reminder to your car
(5) Once my battery gets to 3 years old, the moment it sounds like it is slowing down when starting the car, usually the onset of winter, I fit a new one. I have not had a battery issue in the last 15 years of driving.
(6) Most cars need the ignition on to make the cigarette lighter work, the power demands of the computers running (my current car has 5) are going to diminish the effectiveness of these units.
(7) A good set of jumper leads always work, but you must know how to use them correctly, particularly on the modern fuel injected vehicle.
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Reply By: Damian007 - Tuesday, Dec 15, 2009 at 20:38

Tuesday, Dec 15, 2009 at 20:38
I'll tell you how the "porta-Jump" works.

The porta jump is actually higher in voltage than your car battery. I measured the "Open Circuit" voltage and I got around 32volts. The Porta Jumps works by provideing your flat car battery with a surface charge which might just be satisfactory to start a car, However, It won't be any good if your battery is completely dead. If you've left your lights on all night and the battery is dead flat, forget the Porta Jump.

The Porta Jump won't help you if your battery has a bad cell. In fact, If your battery isn't very healthy it won't work.

Before anyone says that the Porta Jump can't be a Higher Voltage or it'll wreck your car.. The Porta Jump limits it's current so it won't destroy any sensitive electronic equipment etc. Might be Higher Voltage but that voltage soon drops as soon as you plug it in to your cigarette lighter socket and turn your key to acc.

In my opinion, The Porta Jump is another piece of Useless, Money wasting piece of crappola that misleads people. I know a lot of my customers who have bought one and as soon as they try to use it they soon realise it doesn't work and that's when I get the callout to go get them going.

The fact is, The Porta Jump was made to jump start a Vehicle with a battery which is "Just" Flat. You can interpret that as you will. I don't know how to explain it any better..



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Reply By: Member - Flynnie (NSW) - Tuesday, Dec 15, 2009 at 20:59

Tuesday, Dec 15, 2009 at 20:59
I have used an old Blue Apple Outback pack for jump starting a few times. It was 24ah. Used it in the car park at work a few times with cars that had interior lights left on for a week or so. It did start them but there was a cost. They were so deeply discharged that they sucked the guts out of the Outback. I quickly lost enthusiasm for this volunteering and they could ring the NRMA or be more careful in future.

A 75ah Thumper would handle it. Anything less is not going to be up to repeated use and maybe will not even work at all when needed. There is no point having this sort of gear if it won't work when you need it. All or nothing at all.

Flynnie
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Tuesday, Dec 22, 2009 at 16:18
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:40

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:40
Hmmmmm The spelling mistakes in the FAQ dont generate any confidence either.

If they cant get that right how can they build something that has a battery that NEVER goes flat.

They state that the device will not go flat if left for "years" wthout a charge.

I understood that most types of batteries self discharge at about 2% a month.

How come we have never heard of this significant scietific breakthrough.



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Reply By: Who was that again? (Vic) - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:00

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:00
Don't know about that brand Dazza, but I have one in the shed that has a larger battery. They are great as they can run a distant light in a toilet or shed, jump start your gear Ours has helped our 67KVA generator, our irrigation pump motor, Toyotas, Nissans and a Mercedes as well as the lights in the toilet at EO Pyrenees events.

Get a good quality one though, I think the $50 one have small batteries. It is the size of the battery that provides the umph you need with a flat battery, some have only 7 or 12 amphours, but they hide that information.

Small wires, does not equal good bit of gear...............
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