Termites & Tyres

Submitted: Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 at 14:24
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Recently posted about swarming Termites, one of the replies I got was about Termites eating tyres, that I should place tin under the tyres when parked for long term, has anyone got 100 % Irrefutable proof of this, I will call it a Myth, reason being I have seen tyres laying around up that have been there for years , the only damage I can see is from aged perish , .....like me.

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Reply By: Wilk0 - Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 at 14:30

Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 at 14:30
Hi Doug,

Dont know about them eating tyres, I've had the bad luck of them eating new conveyor belt, So i guess its possible

It was in the middle of a laydown yard at a mine and they attacked the (untreated) chocks of timber. They then went into the belt and destroyed about 50mts.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 at 14:36

Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 at 14:36
Yeh well Tyres must be different compound, funny though, I have noticed normal ants to enter a caravan will go up the caravan Jocky Wheel, water hose, power lead, annex ropes, grass, but not the tyres ,

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Follow Up By: Member -Dodger - Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 at 14:50

Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 at 14:50
I have had normal ants keeping their brood in the tread gaps on my vehicle.
Usually meant plenty of rain coming. But this has not been a problem for years now.
I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.

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Reply By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 at 14:58

Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 at 14:58
G/Day Doug

I have seen Termites go through Heavy Duty Plastic Cable Guard and Poly Pipe, I don't think it's their preference for food, it was in the way of the Timber House Frame.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 at 15:03

Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 at 15:03
Yeh.........well Backhoes have been known to have had a good old chew too.

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Reply By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 at 17:11

Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 at 17:11
Hi Doug.
I am pleased you guys live there and I only go there for the Winter.
I always wash my clothing and check the soles of my footwear when coming home.
Just organised my tickets to night for the next winter planning E -W & W.E
hoping to pick up a gathering on the way, I hope to be able to tick off a few more deserts passed thru
Hey have a good Christmas and may the new year treat you well.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Wilk0 - Friday, Dec 18, 2009 at 07:42

Friday, Dec 18, 2009 at 07:42
Hi Russnic,

You know that since you been here more then 3 times that you are now a fully fledged Aussie.

I like to think of it as you come home in winter and go travelling to NZ for the rest of the year.

Welcome aboard, you wont regret it ar least now you can follow a good rugby side and finally get rid of that kiwi passport.

You have a good xmas too fellow ozzie.

Cheers Wilko
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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Friday, Dec 18, 2009 at 14:16

Friday, Dec 18, 2009 at 14:16
Hi Wiko
Been across the ditch a few more times than that. first time as an 18 yr old in NZ shearing and woolhandling team. Some af us stayed on and had a bit of tour, Went back with Rodeo and then following family with thier sport. and back again.
Met lots of nice people, including the guys that rodeo ed here,
Once you get away from the city's most people are pretty good, just like here I suppose.
Don't talk to me about RUGBY, Did you know that my home province has the RANFURLY SHEILD, even better Whoopa (Jamie Mc Intosh) is a almost a part of the family,parents are good friends and my wife changed his nappies and probably gave him a tap on the butt if needed, Went on to teach him at primary school and was a member of the board when he was head boy at secondary school.
DID I TELL YOU SOUTHLAND WON THE RANFURLY SHEILD.
My biggest disappointment was I was in Aus at the time, the nice young thing at Milpraanika did not have a bloody clue what I was talking about when I told her, had to tell someone!
Our youngest Mokopuna got born in Canberra not long ago, bit if a hassle getting her back to God"s Own, still not through the full gestation period and needs a passport to come home, I suppose that is why we feed bureaucrats.
I wil lhave to get more practise in to be an Aussie, but then sooner expire in a desert there somewhere than rotting away in a hosplal bed here.
Have a great Christmas, might catch you somewhwere next year.
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Reply By: trackker - Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 at 18:09

Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 at 18:09
Hi Doug

I have never seen termites eat anything other than wood, but I have a tyre here that has had the sidewall eaten into by tiny red ants. They have managed to eat about 2mm or so deep, right through the outer skin and into the inner white coloured layer.

Tyre was laying on its side on the ground for a couple of weeks. If termites could eat through anything other than wood, I think we would be in trouble.

Cheers trackker
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Reply By: nomadoz - Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 at 19:11

Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 at 19:11
Doug
Years ago in Darwin termites chewed through tread on caravan tyres, a hole the size of a sig butt, more recently had experience with small termites coming trough concrete floor in several location, if you have termites around sit it on metal, to get rid of any termites use Termidor

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Reply By: Member - Crazy Dog (QLD) - Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 at 22:02

Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 at 22:02
It appears they do mate..

check this place Doug my friend

Mastotermes darwiniensis

Commonly found in tropical Western Australia  generally north of the tropic of Capricorn.

Nest location  Mastotermes darwiniensis build their nest (secretively) totally below the soil surface; or in the trunks and root crowns of trees and stumps. Once a nest is mature (over 100,000 or much higher) they can split off to form other nests over a wide ranging area. These sub nests are formed constantly and can sustain life for along period of time without contact to the original nest.

Highly destructive nature  Mastotermes darwiniensis is one of the worlds most destructive termite species, often causing severe damage to houses, buildings, bridges, posts, poles, and many other plant and animal products. Mastotermes darwiniensis is also an agricultural pest, responsible for ringbarking and killing living trees, shrubs, fruit, vegetable crops, sugarcane and rubber trees.

Mastotermes darwiniensis is reported to attack rubber tyres on tractors and cause damage to leather, hide, plastic or lead-sheathed cables, bitumen, bagged salt, flour, glass and various metals. Mastotermes darwiniensis is the most ancient of all the termites in the world  they occur only in Australia  a termite to be feared.


Grrr!!! And they live where you do mate...hahahahaha
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Follow Up By: Krakka - Friday, Dec 18, 2009 at 05:56

Friday, Dec 18, 2009 at 05:56
Well, looks like the myth has been BUSTED!
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Saturday, Dec 19, 2009 at 00:18

Saturday, Dec 19, 2009 at 00:18
I put up the reply about the termites, and i dont need to prove anything, its a fact on the property i mentioned and its on the vehicles that sit around, not those used everyweek.
The darwiniensis termites are the most destructive in australia, know to remove the botom layer of a pack of building timber on the ground on a building site in 24 hrs.
Doug, just because a tyre you found had been there for years, doesnt prove anything more than there may not be a darwiniensis nest within reach, or they had no desire to chew through it.
Like a house thats 100 years old not been attacked against a 2 year old one that has, termites dont work to a pattern.
Besides the obvious, that i work in the industry, my own power company cable under the footpath in our street, in the mid north of SA was eaten away leaving many metres of bare copper wire laying in the dirt, causing low power voltages to my house, had to be ripped up and replaced with termite resistant cable
Yes they will find there way up through concrete, especially older concrete, and will also etch a hole through thin metal such as tin.
Crazy dogs reply sums it up well.
Someone also said about making sure they dont take any home, unless you take the whole nest, or more importantly the queen who is in the centre of the nest, they will die in a short time as they need to teturn to the nest regularly, and they are blind and cannot be exposed to sunlite, so take as many as you like!
There is no relationship between black/red ants and termites, in fact black/red ants are a predator.

Cheers Pesty
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Friday, Dec 18, 2009 at 19:57

Friday, Dec 18, 2009 at 19:57
Some people always like to or need to believe stories roaming the rounds of tourists , Forums, etc that depict the worst case scenario,
Today I have been 48 Klms down the Hwy from where I live to check out and gps mark old ww2 building pads, while I was there I found an old tyre, at a guess I'd say it's been laying there for maybe 30 years or more, so I rolled it over , not a termite to be seen, plenty of Grub and worm marks in the soil but NO TERMITES.
Unless someone can show me a tyre riddled with live termites then I believe this is the usual Granny's tale. because if the tyre shown below can lay in the habitat for many years of Crazy Dogs savage termites without being affected then it really is a Myth.

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Reply By: Isuzumu - Saturday, Dec 19, 2009 at 06:45

Saturday, Dec 19, 2009 at 06:45
I have not got any photos to prove it Doug, but when I lived in Darwin in the 70's out in the suburb of Wulagi they ate thru the tyres on my 15 foot Millard caravan. I noticed that both tyres were flat after finding all my tent poles were eaten away from white ants, I had left them lying under the van. And that is no wife's tale.
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