FISHFINDER / GPS units for a boat

Submitted: Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 03:15
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Seeing I've swapped the camper for a boat and I will be taking away, I would like to hear from those who have some practical working knowledge of FishFinders/GPS units in their boat.

# What are the important points to look out for when buying ?

# What are the questions needed to be asked when buying ?

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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 03:31

Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 03:31
Mainey
Not sure about other brands but seems the Garmin range is either Fish Finder or GPS ,
If thats so then you might need 2 units , one for Navigation and one for finding fish.

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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:50

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Garmin 550s FishFinder/Chartplotter
The Garmin FishFinder/ChartPlotter is only 240 x 320 pixelsImage Could Not Be Found

480 x 640 pixel Fishfinder/Chartplotter combo
the Raymarine FishFinder combo is 480 x 640 pixels, so should be clearer vision?

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:26

Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:26
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See.......there ya go, you don't need help , your doing ok all by yourself.

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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 22:44

Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 22:44
Doug,
I'm looking at various forums and websites, nothing more or less but there are soo many conflicting posts in them and when you look into it a bit deeper the poster often has a 'conflict of interest' in the post.

It gives me nothing more than a quick starting point, so I hope a "genuine user" here on EO will show me the light that makes some sense to me.

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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 00:50

Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 00:50
The screen resolution on these is much higher than everything else I can find
A57D 5.7" combo fishfinder / chartplotter

So what are the negatives about them ??
I keep coming back to it for comparison purposes

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Reply By: gbc - Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 06:49

Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 06:49
what type of boat, what depths and styles of fishing, and most importantly what budget?

Straight up, keep away from the new Lowrance HDS stuff until they get it sorted. Many tales of woe so far with them.

If you can afford the space, separate gps/sounder units are always better, though not always practical.
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:12

Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:12
Will be used for both ocean fishing and up in the Kimberley/NT looking for Barra in the rivers and creeks.
The budget's probably about $1,500 unless I can get a 1O inch screen at a bargain price :)
Realistically I expect to get a combo unit, 5" screen of 480 x 640 pixels, I do like the Lowrance gear, their specs are good, but I've read of the hassles they are having so I will not concider them till I'm assured they are remedied, but then how do you know you have the replacement models anyway ?

I hope to mount it at the back right side, near the rear seat area ?

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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:08

Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:08
G'day GBC,

Sorry to butt in Mainey - but I'm also looking at one! I liked the look of the HDS gear as it seemed similar to the Hummingbird side view but without the price tag. Do you have an opinion on the Hummingbird?

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Follow Up By: Member - Malcolm (Townsville) - Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 21:08

Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 21:08
"I hope to mount it at the back right side, near the rear seat area ? "

Hi Mayney

Now your getting into the water you have to get used to the terminology ......

Did you mean the stern, starboard side? LOL

Enjoy the holidays on the water.

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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 22:50

Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 22:50
Malcolm, only got my "WA Skippers Ticket" the day after I bought the boat so the nautical terminology is all new to me so far, as 'Lex' would suggest so is my 12v terminology after more yrs than I can care to remember :)

So yes, the stern (back) starboard (right) side, on the seat against the side of the boat, so it can be seen when stearing and fishing too.

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Follow Up By: Member - Malcolm (Townsville) - Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 23:08

Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 23:08
No problems. More fishing than steering I hope. ;-)

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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Tuesday, Dec 22, 2009 at 08:21

Tuesday, Dec 22, 2009 at 08:21
I believe you guys mean on the starboard quarter. ;)

You'll never catch fish with the wrong terminology. LOL


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Reply By: jezza68 - Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 14:40

Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 14:40
My two bobs worth,

I have owned several boats and looking at the tinny I would be looking for something compact.
A good colour sounder like the Garmin 400 series are very good and reliable.
I would source a handheld Garmin GPS which can be shared with the car. Both Garmin products come with 12 volts leads and custom attachments.
I would mount both on an adjustable Boss mount which can be positioned to be easily seen or tucked into the gunnals when not needed to avoid damage.

I would also get a small 7-10 amp hours UPS battery to run it all.

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Reply By: Out of here - Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 18:25

Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 18:25
I like the Navman Trackfish 6500 or 6600 - A good unit and easy to use

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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 19:03

Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 19:03
Do you actually own one of them ??

I like the Trackfish 6600 GPS Chartplotter/Sounder with the 7" 480 x 800 pixel colour display screen, the tech specifications are very good, but at ~$3,OOO they would want to be Image Could Not Be FoundMaîneÿ . . .

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Follow Up By: Out of here - Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 22:20

Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 22:20
I have the Trackfish 6500 on my boat - Has been a great unit.

I just got another boat and wished to get another - could not find them but I have purchased the following from Whitworths on line store that is supposed to be just as good with all the same features

45779N Northstar Explorer 657 Transom 1 $939.00 $939.00.

It lloks the same anyway - TBA on how good it is, but the price is right - Cheers
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Follow Up By: Out of here - Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 22:26

Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 22:26
Below 2 links to units priced at $1369 & $939

6600 from Whitworths

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Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 20:01

Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 20:01
Mainey, it sounds like you it covered by your own research.

I have a LowranceThis one Previously had an Eagle Cuda low end combo, with mono screen, which was good for the price, but the new one with colour screen is great.

Great set up. Easy to use. Mapping is very good (we have all Australia card)

At your price you will do well. I think I paid about $1,200 18 months ago. Don't remember if that included the map card.

Dual frequency transducer and sounder is handy, but not essential. Good mapping is important. The Lowance is excellent in most areas, but a bit patchy (though adequate) in remote areas like remote NT where we fish).

At the price you are looking at, any of the late models from the big names will be OK.

I have a 3.95 tinnie and have it mounted on a RAM mount on the rear thwart beside my seat. It can be turned any way, including towards the front thwart. Only problem is when wearing polarised sunnies, the screen is hard to see unless fully backlighted.

Norm C

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Follow Up By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 20:03

Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 20:03
Oh forgot. Split screen is great. Anything in your price range should have it. My usual operation is split screen. Left side sounder, right side map.

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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Wednesday, Feb 24, 2010 at 18:15

Wednesday, Feb 24, 2010 at 18:15
Norm,
The Raymarine unit is pre-loaded with maps of "Charts for Oceania, Southern Asia, Africa, Middle East and Latin America" all installed.

I've seen the coastline up in the Kimberley on it and it looks like every little rock and sandbar is included, maybe because the vision is updated by the satellite when turned on, even have the dredging work being carried on here in the Marina showing, so you know where the new deep channel area is.

This is the quick release mount that I've riveted to the seat, it's all waterproof and it swivels.Image Could Not Be Found
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Reply By: The Rambler( W.A.) - Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 22:47

Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 22:47
Mainey
I have done offshore fishing in WA for over 30 years and have always used Lawrence products with great success.Irecently changed frrom the Lawrence LMS300 to the Lawrence LCX-27C which I have found to be a very reliabe and efficient unit. Looking at your boat Iwould say that all you need is a good split screen unit with as large a screen as you can afford.Dual frequency transducer for a boat that size is not necessary.The most important thing with all type sounders is learning how to use them properly which only comes with practice ,as you can have he greatest sounder in the world and you will catch nothing if you do not know how to use it properly.
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 23:04

Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 23:04
Now that makes plenty of sense to me :)

what is a "dual frequency transducer" ???
what does it do ???

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Reply By: The Rambler( W.A.) - Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 23:49

Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 23:49
Mainey,
Most(nearly all) dual frequency transdusers are 200hz and 50hz.The 200hz is very good for up to 100meters depth where the 50hz takes over above 100meter depth.This is a general rule so you only need a 200hz transducer for what you will be doing.The 50hz will give you a wider coverage in shalow water but with not nearly as great detail.Hope this helps with your choice.
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Wednesday, Feb 24, 2010 at 18:28

Wednesday, Feb 24, 2010 at 18:28
Yes, thanks for that, as the transducer setting is adjustable between 200hz, 50hz or can be left at the preset "Auto" setting I will leave it running in Auto.
As the ocean here is under 100 meters deep it's staying on 200hz, but one day I may venture into 100 meter depth and will be interested to see what's underneath me.

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Reply By: gbc - Tuesday, Dec 22, 2009 at 16:09

Tuesday, Dec 22, 2009 at 16:09
I've had nil experience with the new hummingbird side sonar, but have read some awesome things about them for river and shallow work (like the ability to literally see the fish etc. They showed screen dumps of a fishing rod on the bottom clear as day, and one of a croc and some barra too). Hummingbirds have never had a gread rep for the deeper water - their beams have always been too broad and they get false returns (hence their nickname - liarbirds) out past 100 odd metres. Maybe that's been rectified in the newer models.

Personally I'd look at one of the furuno colour sounders for the money - they have better heat sinks than most which is important when you're cranking the gain up. They aren't as pretty and have less buttons, but they do what they are meant to do very well. And they are genuinely waterproof which is a must have in your situation.

My all time fave sounder has been the JRC ff50 - if you can find a second hand one it'll serve you well. Keep away from the plot 500 though(combo sounder/plotter), because the toggles and menus are difficult at best.

Plotters like others have said will depend on who does the best software for the areas you fish.

I'm running raytheon gear at the moment - the sounder is good, but the navionics software isn't as good as others on the market for my area.

The ability to overzoom on a chart is good to have so that you can still have charts on the screen whilst zoomed in on a small working area.
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Reply By: Maîneÿ . . .- Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 20:17

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 20:17
to date have not heard any negatives about the 480 x 640 pixel Raymarine A50D Fishfinder/Chartplotter combo, so that looks like it's a decent unit and comes preloaded with All Australia maps too.

Next Perth trip it will be coming back home with me :-)

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Reply By: Maîneÿ . . .- Sunday, Jan 24, 2010 at 22:11

Sunday, Jan 24, 2010 at 22:11
Well it's finished, is just like having a 'tom tom' for the ocean, with all the towns, bays, beachs and launching ramps shown on screen for the complete Australian coastline.

It will be recharged by the solar system, hence the 'anderson plug' connection Araldited to the top of the battery.


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Reply By: Maîneÿ . . .- Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:54

Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:54
Revised portable 12v battery connection.

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Reply By: Maîneÿ . . .- Wednesday, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:57

Wednesday, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:57
Have had the fishfinder/gps now for a few weeks, so I can give information on the performance of the Raymarine unit in general service.

Last week I went out and saw four (4) fish travelling together on the LCD screen, yes, actually see the individual fish and the distance down they are swimming at too, stopped and dropped the line, landed only 2 of the 4 fish in less than a minute, the other two vanished off the screen while we were busy, so we moved on to find more, definately beats sitting in a boat waiting for a fish to come to the baits when you can clearly see there are no fish there anyway.

The gps screen shows submerged rocks and known wrecks too, and around wrecks there are fish :)

The round swivel base is permantely attached to the seat, the actual electronics and screen etc is attached by a quick release mechanism and I just fit it when I take the boat out.

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Reply By: Maîneÿ . . .- Monday, Mar 15, 2010 at 07:03

Monday, Mar 15, 2010 at 07:03
A quick update on how the Raymarine is working for me, we were going out to the 8 mile reef in 32 foot of water at a 'brisk pace' and I saw the outlines of four (4) fish showing @ 20 foot depth on the fishfinder screen, I did a U turn an stopped above them, dropped 2 baits into the water and with-in seconds pulled out 2 large fish, they just fitted into the landing net, they were Norwest blowies, so did not keep them. Yes have photo's too.

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