Removing/shielding RF noise from 12V Fluros
Submitted: Friday, Sep 26, 2003 at 18:21
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Member - Ken
Whilst the subject of RF interferance is being discussed, have any of you worldly experienced 4WD-ers got any ideas/suggestions on how to remedy the following:
The 12V fluros inside my Troopy camper, when switched on, turn the AM/FM & SW radios into screeching, wailing banshees.
I have made a few enquiries and all the answers seem to be along this line.
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well these type of fluros are 12Volters, which are made as cheap as possible and the R&D required to silence them is just not justified".
I am wondering is that is the end of the road or is that just 'a blind you with science' type answer.
If the fluros in the house don't dick with the radios, then I am sure there must be something that can be done with 12V ones.
Sooooooo! does anybody have any suggestions.
Reply By: Member - Wherethehellawi - Friday, Sep 26, 2003 at 18:58
Friday, Sep 26, 2003 at 18:58
Just asking for info sake...
are the 12v fluros like the 12v work light that is rubberised or are these a smaller fluro that are used to replace conventional interior type lighting?...
If its not the 12 v work light type try one and see if it interferes. does it happen if connected directly to battery?
Just adding food for thoughtWow! am I cute
If yer ain't fishing, Yer ain't livin
Richard
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Follow Up By: Member - Ken - Friday, Sep 26, 2003 at 21:27
Friday, Sep 26, 2003 at 21:27
Thanks for the reply.
They are the fixed fitting sort and I have used a 12V workshop fluro around the vehicle without any interferance.
Whatever it is, is just a bitch.
I am going to try a television next to see if they interfere with that.
Regards
K
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Reply By: ToyMotor - Saturday, Sep 27, 2003 at 16:19
Saturday, Sep 27, 2003 at 16:19
The main reason these 12v fluoros produce a lot more interference than 240v ones is that they run at a much higher frequency. Add to that the significantly lower signal strength for your radio when out bush, and you can get a problem!
There is basically two types of interference - radiated and conducted.* The conducted can be fairly easily stopped by wrapping the cable around a iron powder toroid close to the light, the radiated can be more tricky. The cage idea may help here, especially if it's earthed. I've got a cheap 12v fluoro which is a real bastard for interference, but I had one just as cheap mounted in the back of my old 60 series which was as quiet as a mouse. The petrol light I normally use doesn't interfere with the radio at all ;-)
*Just to keep it interesting, the conducted emissions will also radiate from the cable!
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Ken - Saturday, Sep 27, 2003 at 23:49
Saturday, Sep 27, 2003 at 23:49
ToyMotor
Thanks for the info.
I get the gist of what you are saying, however I am not sure I really understand what a Toroid fix is, and if I did, how I would actually go about it.
In the short term I am going to try and source another brand/type of fluro and see if I can cure it that way.
Good to see another who has experienced this problem.
By the way, the petrol lamp do-da is out as I am a pure diesel man with a touch of LPG to
cook with.
regards
Ken Robinson
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Reply By: Member - Timothy - Sunday, Sep 28, 2003 at 09:44
Sunday, Sep 28, 2003 at 09:44
LED tecnology is going ahead in leaps and bounds
as a couple of people have already mentioned.
I'm no expert, but seems they use a fraction of the
power draw of a floro or halogen light.
Bias Boating has a small range
but for the real "cyber-campers" out there
check out the Alternative Technology association (ATA)
website
http://www.ata.org.au
look for Luxeon LEDs.
They publish ReNew magazine
which is usually a good read
and can be found at your newsagency
or hopefully library.
(I'm in the middle of setting up a backup
solar power
system for our house up here in the Blue Mountains.
I think its going to be a long hot summer
with bush fires, power cuts etc
and I'm going to be the one with cold beer
in the camping fridge and the lights still on.)
Timothy Defender Extreme
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Follow Up By: Member - Ken - Sunday, Sep 28, 2003 at 12:34
Sunday, Sep 28, 2003 at 12:34
Timothy
Mate, you may have come up with a winner here. Thanks for the info.
I just had a look at the ATA website and noticed that they are in
Melbourne where I am.
Soooooooooo! tomorrow I'll give them a call and possibly go and have a look.
I'll keep you posted as to how things pan out
Regards
Ken Robinson
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