Even 10 PSI does not work sometimes

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Reply By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 08:56

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 08:56
All to Often Willem , did you get out without needed to unhook trailer ?
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 09:03

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 09:03
Hi Robin.

It was a winch job together with sandbagging. Managed to proceed for another 100 metres and down we went again. Then the trailer had to be unhooked and another winch job took place. And after this years trek out into the desert the trailer has outlived its usefulness. Travelling light from here on :-)




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Follow Up By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 20:13

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 20:13
Hope the winch was electric Willem!
Once spent 10 hrs of hand-winching with a Tirfor, getting the old Mav out of a bog on the Bachsten track in the Kimberley. Never been so stuffed in my life!
Swore the next vehicle would have an electric winch!
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 21:07

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 21:07
Yes Gerry...lol

I had a similar experience on Ridell Beach Broome circa 1982. Drove down on to the beach with me F100 4x4 and spent a lovely sunset sipping wine and eating snacks and on the way back up the dune something gave way in the left front hub. Methinks it had something to do with the FWH. So there I was at the bottom of the dune with only 2wd. Let the tyres down to 5psi and rushed the dune but only got halfway up the 300metre slope. Buried the spare 6 times that night. Each pull on the Tirfor advanced the rope about 10mm!!! Lost some weight that night!! Got to bed at 2am. The Ford had let me down before so I flogged it later in the week in Port Hedland!! :-) Flogged the Tirfor as well!!!


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Follow Up By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 21:44

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 21:44
Yes, we couldn't see the vehicle move with each swing of the handle. We had to put a spade in the ground next to the bullbar to actually guage any movement forward! With two of us on the handle, we'd winch for 5 mins, rest for 5. Geez, it was hard work!

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Reply By: The Explorer - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 09:04

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 09:04
Did you have the hubs locked in ? :)

Rescued a guy at Bremer Bay once who didnt !!

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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:09

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:09
There is no answer to that comment, Greg :D


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Reply By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 09:21

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 09:21
Willem,

Looks like the beginning of a long day.

Matt.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 09:45

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 09:45
Hi Matt

It was late afternoon. Driving spinifex all day. Managed to get out after about an hour of mucking around through two bogs and found a clearing in the grass with just a enough comfortable space for the 4 vehicles. There was even some dry firewood handy :-) All part of the adventure!





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Reply By: Member - Allan B (QLD) - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:21

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:21
Hi Willem

Try practicing levitation.

I've worked at it and thought I could feel a little lightening once after some hours of concentration!

Think of the possibilities if you can master it. LOL

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Follow Up By: Member - Fred B (NT) - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:31

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:31
Don't know about levitation.... but I know Willem, myself, and I am sure many of you, have experienced that "sinking feeling".... lol..!
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Reply By: Wilk0 - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:23

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:23
Hi Willem,

What size tyres did you have on?

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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:29

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:29
Hi Wilko

12ply rating 7.50x16 rags on splits. Preferred bush tyre :-)

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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:52

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:52
Gday Willem,
You should do a search on MRF footprints! :-)))
On a previous thread
your MRF footprint length was 300mm at 10psi.
A 265/75 tubeless 10ply (same diameter tyre) measures 390mm long at 10psi.

Its a fair difference
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:04

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:04
Yes Phil.....science is great, eh

By the time we got to where we were the fellas with those tubeless tyres had had 16 punctures between them. Three tubeless were destroyed

We can go 'round in circles mate...what you win on the flat you lose on the roundabout or something like that

The trailer was a handicap on that trip but to find out how stuff works you need first hand experience.

Please don't follow in my tracks with your baloon tyres......LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 16:07

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 16:07
Me thinks ya might have ya tongue jammed firmly in ya cheek with a post like this Mr Willem?
You already know the mrf cheesecutters arent a good sand tyre no matter what the pressure!!!
Merry xmas to the Kempens.

Cheers Pesty
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 16:35

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 16:35
Keep doing what you're doing Willem - we look forward to the entertainment next year :-))
BTW, On the Trader, there's a set of 6 MRFs for sale at jamestown if you need a few more.......

And best wishes for the season to Pesty and family!

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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 17:26

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 17:26
Nah, no tongue in cheek Mr Pesty. Just a post to keep the troops entertained. :-) Anyway hope you and your family have a good one.

Phil, My offer for those tyres, which I am acquainted with personally, did not reach the reserve mark. And so a stalemate exists :-)


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Follow Up By: Member - Michael J (SA) - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 21:23

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 21:23
Thank you Phil,

Your 'spotters' fee will be forthcoming.........subject to a sale of course..lol lol

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Reply By: Member - Allan B (QLD) - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 13:06

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 13:06
Willem, if you are going to ditch the trailer, how are you going to carry enough fuel for those long-range treks that you do?

PS: Worry about you lot in SA today. But Seasons Greetings mate.

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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 13:22

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 13:22
Alan...yeah its hot outside.

Staying inside today, with See Ling Fan on, sitting in front of the puter with a Coopers Pale Ale, practising on the geeter for Xmas singalong, and answering emails..... lol

I have reconfigured the back of the Chariot (not calling it a TRUCK no more) to accommodate 8 jerries giving me 255lts fuel load all up and about 1000km+ in Low Range @4km/l. That should suffice for major treks. One coming up in 2010!

Where I live it is reasonably safe as far as fires go as we are surrounded by open agricultural fields and very little scrub. Most cockies have harvested their wheat crops so just stubble remains. We sort of took this into account when settling here. Also made sure the single story house is on a flat block so when we get to the stage when we need gophers etc, access should be easy. :-)

Seasons Greetings to you and your family

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Reply By: get outmore - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 14:00

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 14:00
neve really tried myMRF out in the sand. Just a bit near mt elvire and they went straight down at road pressure and another time at some Gypsum hills around some salt lakes near kal where i think you went with the EG4wd where they did OK

Mostly used them for bushwork where they absalutly shone.

currently got some 14 ply Ruffn tuff tyres and a stray mrf which i have only used the once so far.

they were fine for using around kal so i never took them off but they are just downright scary in the city so they sit under the back veranda waiting for some more woodlands trips
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 17:33

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 17:33
G'day Davoe

Those tyres pictured were 12ply rating. ATM I am running 16ply rating but once they are worn out will probaby revert back to 12ply/r. It depends, of course, how many more offtrack excursions I am going to take part in. THere is still some country out there tp visit. Want to do it before the miners dig it all up...lol
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Reply By: Member - Bucky - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 15:40

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 15:40
Willem'
That's the way

I was prepared to drop pressures to 8 psi, on the Canning, if need be.

Never even looked like going there .. Just 12 front.....15 rear....12 camper


Gotta love it
great picture too !



Have a merry X-mas and a happy new year mate, and to the Mrs too

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Bucky
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 17:28

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 17:28
Hiya Bucky, you have a good one too!


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Reply By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 21:18

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 21:18
Willem..... I would shoot the person who took the pic for getting proof that even you can still find a little bog :P Maybe best not talk about the other bogging though :)
Peter
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 06:37

Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 06:37
:-)
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Reply By: Who was that again? (Vic) - Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 23:36

Wednesday, Dec 23, 2009 at 23:36
Bro, the beauty of driving on cheese cutter tyres is they do cut through, mud, snow and SAND. You designed your system like that, not for flotation LOL

Hope the Peterborough clan have a great Christmas

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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 06:09

Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 06:09
Bro,

Yeah I am definitely not on the champagne circuit :-)

You mob have a good one too


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Follow Up By: Who was that again? (Vic) - Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 08:34

Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 08:34
Big mob this year, the elders all going to Madcowz place, coming from as far away as Queensland.
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