New 70 series Landcruiser air bags

Submitted: Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 13:06
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G'day all

Start off saying have a very Merry Christmas and happy New Year


Just curious about these new Cruisers which now have air bags in the steering wheel and passenger side dash.

I drive one of these cars everyday at work and spend a fair bit of time off road heading out to the Dam. I see quite alot of Kangaroos in the morning in my travels and was wondering if i hit a roo with this new car will the air bags go off inside the car or does it need a good thump to activate them?? Maybe even hitting a cow?

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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 13:09

Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 13:09
Give the front a good kick and see what happens :-)

I would think it will depend on how big the Roo is and how hard you hit it??

They are not supposed to go off with a light tap.

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Follow Up By: Member -Tukka (WA) - Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 13:10

Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 13:10
Yeah well you would hope it wouldn't go off just from hitting a roo but your right it all depends on size and speed
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 13:18

Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 13:18
They have gone off in cars involved with pedestrian impact so I would think a Roo is quite capable also.

Just hope the Roo gets knocked flat as the bugga's tend to come across the bonnet and through the windscreen particularly if you get them on the upward part of the hop.
Friends of mine in their Cortina years ago ended up with one between the front seats thankfully they had killed it outright before it ended up in the car as a frightened/injured Roo in the front seat of a Cortina would have been interesting.

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Follow Up By: Wilk0 - Friday, Dec 25, 2009 at 21:09

Friday, Dec 25, 2009 at 21:09
The latest pedestrian friendly bull bars are bad for letting the roos over the bonnet as well
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Reply By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 13:33

Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 13:33
I was assured by the dealer that they would not go off hitting a roo, and have spoken to people from experience of hitting roos in the 200 series..... Otherwise I would not have taken delivery of mine. I ordered the older version but got the new version at the same price as the old model.
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Reply By: The Explorer - Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 14:00

Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 14:00
Hi
I hit a roo the other day in a Prado and the air bags did not go off. I was going pretty slow though.

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Follow Up By: Boobook2 - Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 17:44

Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 17:44
I hit one at 100k. Did a few grand damage ( even with ARB bull bar). Airbags didn't go off then either.

I think it takes a very big wack for them to go off.

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Reply By: Member - Kroozer (WA) - Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 15:53

Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 15:53
Good excuse to give it a try, good dog meat.
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Follow Up By: Top End Explorer - Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 20:30

Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 20:30
They are great stir fried in sweet chili sauce and finely chopped garlic then finished off with a lite honey glaze.

Cheers Steve.
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Reply By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 20:25

Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 20:25
I nailed a big one between Kununurra and Katherine a few years back in our 100 Series, bent the alloy bullbar but no air bag deployment.Sounded like a shotgun going off when he hit.
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Reply By: howesy - Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 21:22

Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 21:22
one thing that will catch a few off guard is that you will have to have one as a second vehicle with children and no more trips to town with dad regardless of child restraint or booster seat .

Nsw Road rules state that it is an offence to carry any person 16yrs or under in the front seat of a vehicle fitted with a passenger air bag.
So the old faithfull cruiser trayback whilst moving with the times now has limited itself in its range of duties.
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Follow Up By: howesy - Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 21:25

Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 21:25
I'll get in 1st I realise most would be 2nd vehicle anyway with kids unless you only had one child then its squeezy. Main point is they wont be allowed in the car periiod.
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Follow Up By: Horacehighroller - Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 22:09

Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 22:09
Howesy, I'm hoping that you're mistaken about that.

In Victoria the government have just brought in a number of new rules, one of which is that kids as young as seven ARE allowed in the front if the rear seats are already occuppied by other children OR if there is no available seat in the rear.(ute, p/van etc.)

I can't imagine NSW being that out of touch with the reality that many families with young children may have a ute, or truck, or other similar single seat vehicle.

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Follow Up By: howesy - Friday, Dec 25, 2009 at 07:15

Friday, Dec 25, 2009 at 07:15
I have only checked NSW but its on Page 80 of the handbook under child restraints and air bags and actually says its an offence.
I wont be trading mine in I'll be rebuilding it when the time comes I want to be able to take my grandson camping and 4Wd ing in it.
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Follow Up By: howesy - Friday, Dec 25, 2009 at 07:18

Friday, Dec 25, 2009 at 07:18
Here it is cut and pasted directly from the handbook on nSW RTA website

Child restraints and airbags
It is an offence to use a child restraint (including a booster cushion) in the front seat
of a vehicle fitted with a passenger airbag, as the child could be seriously injured by
the airbag.
Never use a booster with a lap seatbelt alone. Booster cushions used with a lap only
seatbelt must have a child harness.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Dec 26, 2009 at 10:41

Saturday, Dec 26, 2009 at 10:41
I believe it takes a stopping force in excess of 2 G to set off an airbag.

So if you hit a roo and the car doesnt actually decelerate it wont go off.

If you hit a pole or another car it will put that much force on the activation unit and deploy the bags.

Does that explian it
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Follow Up By: Fatso - Saturday, Dec 26, 2009 at 13:05

Saturday, Dec 26, 2009 at 13:05
You could although be unlucky enough to hit a big roo, while braking heavily, just as you hit a thick patch of soft sand.
But that is very unlikely to happen.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Dec 26, 2009 at 13:11

Saturday, Dec 26, 2009 at 13:11
Whatever it takes that is what is needed to set them off.

Famous case a while ago in England or somewhere where a Volvo or similar had a case against makers because air bags didnt go off in an accident.

Why didnt they go off.


Because the nong rolled it. didnt cause enough instant deceleration to set them off.


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Reply By: howesy - Saturday, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:11

Saturday, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:11
Sorry for it being sorta a little off subject but another thing to consider with the new seventies is the bad low alternator placement there is a fleet owner on another forum that reckons out of a fleet of 60 he replaces about 10 alternators a month due to water damage so it looks like their allergic to water as well.
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