UHF Aerials
Submitted: Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 15:53
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waynespk
Hi all
I'm looking for information regarding what may be the best aerial for a new radio. I'm getting a GME TX3420 for a trip from Melb to
Karumba mid 2010. Will be travelling with 2 other vehicles through SA, NT and then into Qld, so I'd like to maximise the range and signal without paying a fortune.
Does anyone have any suggestion based on their experience? Any idea on the place to purchase it from (I'm getting the GME from Contact Com for $375 which is about $100 less than retail outlets in Melb)
Thanks for any input
Cheers
Reply By: Member - Ian H (NSW) - Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 15:57
Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 15:57
Best thing for you is to look at the GME web site and get a good,correct handle on why you should choose which aerial and just as importantly where to mount it.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 19:17
Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 19:17
A GME 1018K ???? 6db would be good
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Reply By: oldpop - Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 19:25
Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 19:25
Gme aerials are not made zcg any more I believe made off shore
quality could be doubtful
Regards
Oldpop
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 19:34
Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 19:34
"so I'd like to maximise the range and signal without paying a fortune."
WHY do you want to maximise the range?
What is the radio for?
The last thing we want is to have to listen to every jerk within 30km.
We use little 1/2 wave antennaes that give very clear reception over varied terrain for around 10km. That is plenty.
If you want emergency transmission, a UHF is not the way to get it.
Cheers,
Peter.
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Follow Up By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 20:58
Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 20:58
My sentiments exactly. Long range is of no use to me.
I have a 1/4 wave fixed to my antenna mount (tho that's coz I broke the 3/4, and I just cut a bit of wire to length and stuffed it in - how cheap is that :-). It's not gonna break off again.
Works just fine for convoy, road works or when coming up behind a road train.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 09:06
Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 09:06
Peter
It reads like your calling him a jerk, because he wants range, what if that extra little bit of range was save someones life , ( A long shot but possible) ,
The situation is very simple, all you need to do is wind up the squelch a tad more and the so called jerks will be silenced, or didn't you think of that..!!!!.
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Follow Up By: Fred G NSW - Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:23
Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:23
"WHY do you want to maximise the range? "
Why not ???
We generally like to maximise all of our equipments capabilities so why not the UHF ? I fail so see why that would qualify anyone as a "Jerk".
As Doug points out, it is a simple procedure to silence them, and that includes the channel and on/off button.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 09:06
Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 09:06
Mount the antenna on the roof if you want the best of both worlds.
Gives you the best range, and you can easily change to a short rubber stubbie for around town and overgrown tracks. The range of the rubber stubbie is pretty good - at least half that of the best setup.
I use the rubber stubbie 95% of the time, and slip on a 6Db when I need the range.
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 09:28
Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 09:28
I use one like this, a Mobile One RF470B , 6.5db , $90.00 only . and works a treat.
Raised feed with stainless steel co-linear antenna top & 4.5m coax
This antenna can be mounted almost anywhere and with any type of mount and does not need to be earthed.
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Follow Up By: Fred G NSW - Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:09
Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:09
I got that antenna mounted nice and high, behind the dual cabin on the front of the canopy frame, and works a treat. Has an amazing range sometimes.
And for Peters peace of mind, I didn't put it there to be a "Jerk", just to maximise it's capabilities.
Fred
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:19
Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:19
Wayne,
Best to mount in the centre of the roof if possible (usually not possible because of roof rack) as the extra height helps and the metal roof acts as a reflector to effectively increase the size of the aerial. Some cheap aerials require this, other ("ground plane independent") types don't, but will also benefit.
Maximising range and signal - Vehicle mounted UHF CB radios are limited by law to 5watts output. The only control you have over range and radiated power is the gain of the aerial.
The gain of the aerial determines its radiation pattern. Low gain (4.5 dB) radiate pretty much in all directions, including straight up. High gain (9 dB) radiate predominantly horizontally. Intermediate 6 dB types are a pretty good compromise between wasting power by sending it out into space, while not being too tightly confined to the horizontal. Radiating horizontally is fine in flat country, but can limit range in hilly country when the vehicles may be pointing up or down, and the terrain may absorb too much of the more concentrated radiation pattern.
I use a GME 6/9 dB and antenna and can't pick the difference in range between 6 and 9 dB. The 9dB is bigger and more prone to vibration damage, so I usually stick to the 6 dB.
Range - very dependent on terrain, but I expect to get at least 5 km when travelling, maybe 10 km or more if both transmitter and receiver are elevated, and under freak conditions maybe out to the horizon. We find this quite adequate. (If you need serious range, you need
hf radio, not uhf.)
Apart from range and cost, an important factor is robustness. The simplest cheapest 4.5 dB UHF aerials score
well here.
For general use, I'd recommend a 6 dB aerial, simpler the better. Check out the GME website.
HTH
John
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Follow Up By: waynespk - Wednesday, Dec 30, 2009 at 09:11
Wednesday, Dec 30, 2009 at 09:11
Thanks for the responses fro everybody this has given me something to work on
Cheers
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Reply By: waynespk - Wednesday, Dec 30, 2009 at 09:11
Wednesday, Dec 30, 2009 at 09:11
Thanks for the responses from everybody this has given me something to work on
Cheers
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