Be aware of LVC devices current consumption!

Submitted: Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 17:34
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I thought I had finaly set up my rig as far as 12v goes and have been blaming the battery brand for early failing until I looked further!

The Low Voltage Cut out device I chose was supposed to be protecting my aux battery by cutting off any load when battery voltage dropped below the preset determined battey voltage..

YES of course you may say...that is what they are designed to do

BUT the device continues to draw current for itself after "protecting" the AUX battery from over draw.....no sleep mode...so after cutting off the accessories to "protect' the AUX battery in continues to suck it out to feed itself (I wrongly assumed very little draw)

AND I decided to test its draw......wait for it 0.14ah thus equalling 23.52a in a week....that is a hell of a lot of power out of a battery if its sits still for a week.....worse still as this vehicle of ours can sit for nearly 2 weeks = 47ah

Doesnt do a lot for protecting the battery!!!...in fact it stuffed it over successive periods

Phone the manufacturer and innocently asked what their device current draw was...of course the answer was we dont know! (In fact I am convinced they do that was why they said they didnt know..sceptical I know)

have now purchased another brand drawing <10 ma whilst monitoring and with a sleep mode ........and about to put a new battery in

My fault ....I guess I didnt look for the current draw on the first purchase and assumed being a reputable local brand that it was going to be well designed and tested

So the moral is be aware if you are not and if you have one of these devices might be a good idea to see what they are consuming.....never going to be a problem on a vehicle with regular use but a week or more parked up is a different matter

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Reply By: Who was that again? (Vic) - Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 18:06

Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 18:06
You are right Bungarra, that is why I have taken out the voltage protection in my Karavan. A Redarc Smart-start draws about 16-17 amphours a day, quite a lot more than you mention. That is of course, while the voltage is still up. In the case of the Karavan, 24/7.

There is one in my car too, but I have changed the set up to charge the secondary battery, with a 12v->12v charger and it draws only a fraction from a battery, except when charging and then only with the engine going
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Follow Up By: Member - Damien L (Cairns) - Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 19:53

Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 19:53
So does most inverters draw while still connected. I have put in a high amp switch in line so it can be turned off while not being used.
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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 18:46

Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 18:46
It's not just low voltage devices either lots of accessories we plug in drag a substantial current in "standby" mode.
One of the common ones is the rearview screen for the camera, has a fag socket on it and a"lump" between it and the screen connection, takes all of two weeks to totally flatten a 100AH battery!!
The phone charger also pulled a few milliamps as did an AA charger and the GPS that was connected so now we make sure everything is unplugged when the truck is parked. Yes none of my fag sockets are switched through the ignition, just connected to the aux battery through a fuse of course.
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Follow Up By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 19:57

Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 19:57
Ozhumvee

my indash gps draws 0.16 and so I also learent very early on to make sure it is switched off

(I re routed it so it draws from AUX battery) so as not lose any unsaved track data if accidently switched off or the engine stalls

left the GPS it on for a week and that added to the LVC device compounded the problem

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Reply By: oldtrack123 - Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 21:04

Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 21:04
Hi All

Many/most LVCs can be controlled thru the ignition switch.
Suggest you check if yours can
If it has a small dia + voltage sense wire simply connect to some point that is only active with engine runningl
Possabilities include load side of wiper fuse ,air con fuse ETC
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 23:13

Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 23:13
The solution is so simple ad cheap, I'm surprised there aren't more o the market - use a Latching Relay - draws no curent except when switching on or off.

Oatley Electronics sell a kit for $20 that can handle 80 amps !
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Follow Up By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 09:47

Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 09:47
Hi Mike

could you explain their design / function please...never heard of them and the web site of Oatley's doesnt say much

thanks

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Follow Up By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 09:52

Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 09:52
Hi Mike

google search helps!...I now understand where you are coming from.......use the latching relay to connect / disconnect the LVC

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