3 litre diesel Patrol engine spins but doesn't start???

Submitted: Sunday, Jan 03, 2010 at 21:54
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Daugter and family in Oodnadatta heading North and had trouble with Patrol starting

engine spins over but doesn't fire

fault is intermittent and they made progress to Oodnadatta today OK

apart from no fuel (ie blocked filter or airlock) any suggestions - does it have a fuel shut off valve???
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Reply By: Mick O - Sunday, Jan 03, 2010 at 22:03

Sunday, Jan 03, 2010 at 22:03
Are they using a non-original key at any time. If they are using a key without the imobiliser, or they have dropped a genuine key in the dirt or dust, this can cause the vehicle to behave in the manner you've described.

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Follow Up By: Member - Barry (NT) - Sunday, Jan 03, 2010 at 22:08

Sunday, Jan 03, 2010 at 22:08
ah never thought of this Mick

they have been rolling in sand etc BUT using same genuine key I assume

I will get them to check this when daughter rings in the morning

thanks mate

cheers Baz
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Sunday, Jan 03, 2010 at 22:24

Sunday, Jan 03, 2010 at 22:24
Have they verified the fuel system's integrity? The easy part of this is to remove the hose from the outlet of the filter housing and prime the filter plunger. Fuel should come out of the filter outlet (the one closest to the radiator). Have they checked the filter drain bung for water? Is there any red lights on the dash (engine fault)?

Good luck to them....

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Follow Up By: Member - Barry (NT) - Sunday, Jan 03, 2010 at 22:29

Sunday, Jan 03, 2010 at 22:29
Yes I think they have done this Roachie

when they get it running it runs OK but as you know the intermittant part is the problem

I'll reinforce your sequence when the call as it wouldn't hurt to do it again to be sure

thanks for info

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Follow Up By: Member - mazcan - Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 00:34

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 00:34
hi
does the fuel seleniod wire on the fuel pump have a loose connection as this wlill cause intermitten operation simular to turning the key off
just a thought that may help
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 00:41

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 00:41
Lack of compression due to hole in top of piston??

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 08:27

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 08:27
nahhhhh....couldn't be that John; it's NEVER happened before to this ultra-reliable engine...;-)
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Follow Up By: Dasher Des - Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 11:08

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 11:08
Happy New Year Roachie,

How can you claim to be a Patrol expert when I hear from a very reliable source that your truck has more Toyota parts in it than Nissan. Is it true that the shell is the only Nissan bits left in it now??? Is it a ChevToyMiss now?
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 11:21

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 11:21
G'day Dasher Des and a very happy and prosperous new year to you too mate.....

It is true that I now refer to my rig as a Chevtoypatrol, but there is still a very slight bias towards nissan parts exceeding toyota parts...(but only just)...hahaha

How's the 50 series going?

Cheers mate

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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 05, 2010 at 18:21

Tuesday, Jan 05, 2010 at 18:21
Get a room you guys!
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Reply By: Member - Malcolm (Townsville) - Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 12:04

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 12:04
Barry

I used to get this problem with my Patrol from time to time.

When they prime the fuel filter do they get a solid resistance? When I was by myself I used to pump the plunger with my right hand and at the same time put my left hand inside and turn the motor over. As it was cranking, I would pump like XXXX. There is most probably an air lock.

[Roachie] I thought you were selling that beast of yours.

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Reply By: Member - Barry (NT) - Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 18:15

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 18:15
Thanks all problem has not reared it's head again.

Spoke to daughter this AM and the way it was described it was most likely the immobiliser and or dirty key.

They're out of the desert now and on the black top.

cheers Baz
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Reply By: Member - Bentaxle - Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 23:42

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 23:42
Barry
I had a similar problem with my Patrol, turned out to be a faulty injector pump sensor.

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Reply By: howesy - Tuesday, Jan 05, 2010 at 10:07

Tuesday, Jan 05, 2010 at 10:07
Has it got a turbo timer ??
My turbo timer wiring was bodgy after a few years of corrugated roads and it was very similar although on a different $wd so maybe have an auto elec check that when they are in a town that has one of course..
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