100 series 5 speed auto to manual conversion.
Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 06, 2010 at 12:01
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Rob & Amanda
Hi guy's, Does anyone know anybody that has had a auto to manual conversion carried out on a 100 series IFS T/D? The Complexities if any? Overall cost estimates.
regards
Rob
Reply By: Member - Andrew L (QLD) - Wednesday, Jan 06, 2010 at 12:36
Wednesday, Jan 06, 2010 at 12:36
I would imagine it would be an electronic nightmare. The 100 series 1HDFTE with 5 speed auto is an highly electronic managed setup, and is generally seen as a fantastic vehicle, touring, towing or general driving.
Complexities would be the existing engine / gearbox wiring, computer/s for engine management that read the gearbox and adjust engine management with that info, new pedal set, clutch master cyl and piping, console, floor access for the different sticks, transfer case and driveshaft compatibility, the list goes on..
Would it not be easier and cheaper even to sell your auto and buy a manual? The 100 series 1HDFTE and 5 speed auto get good money on resale.
I gotta ask whats wrong with the auto setup?
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Follow Up By: Off-track - Wednesday, Jan 06, 2010 at 21:13
Wednesday, Jan 06, 2010 at 21:13
I'd expect that changing any sub-wiring harness for the auto would be relatively easy and virtually plug and play. Mechanicals should be bolt in as
well. Keeping the same engine so all the usual complexities of fitting a 1HDFTE into a 105 will not be an issue.
Head over to LCOOL for specific and expert advice on this.
Be interesting to hear the outcome as there may have been people in the past that have done the reverse of what you propose.
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Reply By: Member - OzGazza (VIC) - Wednesday, Jan 06, 2010 at 13:09
Wednesday, Jan 06, 2010 at 13:09
Rob,
I'm sorry I don't know anyone doing it. But I assume it would be quite tricky. I had LC100 TD Auto - loved it in the bush, loved it on the hwy, loved it towing and as a weekly ride to work.
I had a bunch of bits and oversized tyres and was getting 12.5 l/100k
Are you sure you really want to to this?
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Reply By: Gazal Champion - Wednesday, Jan 06, 2010 at 17:17
Wednesday, Jan 06, 2010 at 17:17
Hi Rob, why do you want to do that. I'm cracking my neck to get a 5 speed auto in a 100 series. I have had a 4 speed auto in a 97 80 ser. and thought it was pretty good but I reckon, but don't know for sure, that a 5 speed auto would be the ultimate for towing etc.. Unless you came up with a 6 speed!
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Bruce.
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Reply By: Member - Royce- Wednesday, Jan 06, 2010 at 22:41
Wednesday, Jan 06, 2010 at 22:41
My life experience tells me that you should sell this one and buy what you want. ... No really. It is so much cheaper and easier in the long run.
Non-original conversions.... are so ... just not worth it.
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Reply By: Rob & Amanda - Wednesday, Jan 06, 2010 at 23:29
Wednesday, Jan 06, 2010 at 23:29
This was a matter of curiosity not necessity, the 5 speed auto is a pleasure to drive if somewhat boring. The auto will perform better when driven in a stern manner as opposed to idling along which is how i drive.
We sold our GU Patrol in favour of 2004 T/D Cruiser around 18 months ago now and are happy with our choice. But i have noticed that the Toyota drives smoother when driven harder.
For example, the auto will tend to hesitate occasionally while accelerating out of a corner or roundabout and even hunt for a gear or slip down a gear with bit of a clunk. However when driven a bit harder will change smoothly and with no apparent problem.
The car has been to Toyota and to auto transmission specialist's and they can't seem to find a problem... I did take a mechanic for a spin in it around
the block and he did notice the difference of running better when pushed, yet could not find a problem during servicing.
I don't know anyone that has a T/D Cruiser with a 5 speed auto to compare with. Maybe that's just how it is.
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Reply By: Rob & Amanda - Wednesday, Jan 06, 2010 at 23:33
Wednesday, Jan 06, 2010 at 23:33
This was a matter of curiosity not necessity, the 5 speed auto is a pleasure to drive if somewhat boring. The auto will perform better when driven in a stern manner as opposed to idling along which is how i drive.
We sold our GU Patrol in favour of 2004 T/D Cruiser around 18 months ago now and are happy with our choice. But i have noticed that the Toyota drives smoother when driven harder.
For example, the auto will tend to hesitate occasionally while accelerating out of a corner or roundabout and even hunt for a gear or slip down a gear with bit of a clunk. However when driven a bit harder will change smoothly and with no apparent problem.
The car has been to Toyota and to auto transmission specialist's and they can't seem to find a problem... I did take a mechanic for a spin in it around
the block and he did notice the difference of running better when pushed, yet could not find a problem during servicing.
I don't know anyone that has a T/D Cruiser with a 5 speed auto to compare with. Maybe that's just how it is.
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