Bathurst - who will dominate Ford or Holden ?
Submitted: Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 18:35
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Jeff (Beddo)
It has got to be Ford's year this year hasn't it ?
Anyway I think all the top drivers should be put in the production version GT Falcons and SS Commodores etc and put on the same rubber, motors can be blue printed - then lets go racing. Back to the days when it was a proper competition between the 2 major makes such as the races around 1968 and the early 70's.
Go the BLUE OVAL this is the year - PLEASE - I've had it with the Holden fans laughing at me for the last (how many years) few years.Cheers, Beddo
Surf KZN185
<- Yengo NP, Central Coast NSW
Reply By: Member - W.Wallace - Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 19:08
Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 19:08
Come on you Ford blokes, you know very
well that even if Ford has the better setup car this year(jesus that hurts me!) & are cruising to victory, that they will find a way to self destruct, in the pits or on the track, as usual, and the Holdens will win as usual!
Go Holden, can't let these Ford's get a sniff, We'll never hear the end of it.
;)
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Reply By: David N. - Wednesday, Oct 01, 2003 at 10:19
Wednesday, Oct 01, 2003 at 10:19
Yeh, Ford should be given a chance at a win at
Bathurst occasionally- BUT NOT YET!!!!
Go Holden!
C'mon Truckster, it's no more pathetic than the verbal tirade every night on the news about Football- it's only a bloody game.
eg: The whole of Italy gets blacked out= 20 seconds of news.
Soldiers get killed nearly every day in IRAQ= often not in the news.
People get killed AND maimed on our roads= usually not in the news.
The Lions win the AFL final = 10 mins of news every night for weeks.
It's only a race, and a footy game.
(I happen to enjoy both the odd football game and V8 supercars especially around
Bathurst- but try to keep everything in perspective.)
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Oct 01, 2003 at 15:52
Wednesday, Oct 01, 2003 at 15:52
I can think of many many many better things than to watch taxis going round in circles for 8 hours... like watching dog bleep go hard in the sun for one!
I think the 12th man hit it on the head with the murray walker skit
"those f'kin cars going round and round"...
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Reply By: Jeff (Beddo) - Wednesday, Oct 01, 2003 at 20:12
Wednesday, Oct 01, 2003 at 20:12
Yes I will get a trip report together and some photos - been busy at the bushfires around Cessnock and Kulnura here on the NSW
Central Coast.
Anyway - yep I think it is Fords year - I have seen the Fords leading many a
Bathurst but for some reason a Commodore taps them in the corner and puts them out ! One of those Holden drivers now drives for Ford so maybe we will have a fairer race this year.
Bring back the glory days of the GTHO.
Ford & Holden should bring back the super cars of the late 60's and early 70's - I know the gov't stepped in to stop the XU2 and the Phase 4 etc but now look at some of the things which are out there being imported etc - so hey ford and holden bring out a car which is a world beater like ther Phase III was (fastest 4 door production car in the world at the time).
Go Ford.Cheers, Beddo
Surf KZN185
<- Yengo NP,
Central Coast NSW
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Follow Up By: Savvas - Monday, Oct 06, 2003 at 07:58
Monday, Oct 06, 2003 at 07:58
Agree with you Beddo. HSV & Holden were doing that with the HRT427.
The cars were basically sold ahead of them being built, however they pulled the plug on the project saying they couldn't justify the development costs.
A bit perplexing seeing that holding deposits had been taken for all of them.
I don't usually buy into conspircay theory...but I reckon someone at the federal govt level may have tapped Holden/HSV on the shoulder and said "no go" on the project.
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Reply By: Big Trev - Tuesday, Oct 07, 2003 at 13:43
Tuesday, Oct 07, 2003 at 13:43
Just some info for the un-initiated.
Since the inception of the V8 Supercars, the category has NEVER been a production class, you need to go and watch a Procar event for that. The BRutes are great.
Since the inception of the V8 Supercars both marques have been running a diff modeled on the Ford 9" diff.
Under the new Project Blueprint ,Commodores now run a double wishbone front end, same as what Falcon have been running (in the standard road going car as well) for years. Holden Teams have been chaSing it for about 4 years that I know OF, as the McPherson strut (Standard Holden) does not have enough adjustment in it.
The engine approved under Project Blueprint is based on the Ford V8 for design. When you hear people talking about the new HSM/Aurora motor, that IS the Ford variant they are talking about.
The rear end
suspension on both marques is also a variant of the Ford rear end.
So when a Commodore wins a V8 Supercar race, just remember all this. POWERED, CONTROLLED, ETC BY FORD.
You can always tell a Holden supporter, but not very much.
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Reply By: Big Trev - Tuesday, Oct 07, 2003 at 13:44
Tuesday, Oct 07, 2003 at 13:44
Just some info for the un-initiated.
Since the inception of the V8 Supercars, the category has NEVER been a production class, you need to go and watch a Procar event for that. The BRutes are great.
Since the inception of the V8 Supercars both marques have been running a diff modeled on the Ford 9" diff.
Under the new Project Blueprint ,Commodores now run a double wishbone front end, same as what Falcon have been running (in the standard road going car as well) for years. Holden Teams have been chaSing it for about 4 years that I know OF, as the McPherson strut (Standard Holden) does not have enough adjustment in it.
The engine approved under Project Blueprint is based on the Ford V8 for design. When you hear people talking about the new HSM/Aurora motor, that IS the Ford variant they are talking about.
The rear end
suspension on both marques is also a variant of the Ford rear end.
So when a Commodore wins a V8 Supercar race, just remember all this. POWERED, CONTROLLED, ETC BY FORD.
You can always tell a Holden supporter, but not very much.
By the way you catch me at most
Winton Motor Raceway (Vict) race meetings. I work there as a volunteer official on race weekends.
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