LC 200 series GVM upgrade
Submitted: Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 16:08
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Member - mark and shaz n (WA)
Hi,
Just wondering if anyone has upgraded their GVM on a LC 200 series? We have been advised it will be needed once we fit out the car with barwork, draws , racks, lr tanks etc. We were quoted $2600 inc for the task. (Mainly insurance requirements from my understanding.) Anyone had any problems with doing this or afterwards ?
Mark.
Reply By: Notso - Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 16:11
Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 16:11
It's got me beat how they can produce such a hulking beast of a vehicle with a tiny little GVM like the LC 200 has.
I reckon if you put a family of 5 in the thing plus all their luggage and a couple of tanks of fuel you'd be over the GVM, let alone anything useful, like drawers and cargo barriers etc.
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 16:17
Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 16:17
Give me a break....
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Follow Up By: Notso - Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 16:31
Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 16:31
I dunno, Tare Weight 2700, GVM 3300, that only leaves 600 Kilos, add 100 litres of fuel, close to 500 ks left, add me and the Missus, leaves 300 ks, add the three kids, less another 180 that leaves 120 kilos, add 20 kilos of luggage each, hmmm, that leaves 20 kilos, might need the GVM Upgrade in a year or so when the kids grow up a bit???
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Follow Up By: Boobook2 - Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 18:55
Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 18:55
600kgs may not be much but it's more than a GU has.
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Follow Up By: Notso - Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 19:07
Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 19:07
I dunno about that either as the web site I just looked at said it was 600kgs for a GU, not that I should defend them as I don't own one. I have something with a more shall I say "Adequate" carrying capacity.
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 19:19
Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 19:19
Give it away Notso.
You can't afford one so you criticise it.
Par for the course.
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Follow Up By: Notso - Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 19:28
Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 19:28
Well I've own 9 different motor vehicles in my life, Min, Holden EJ, VW passat, Toyota Corona, Volvo, Holden Commodore, Toyota landcruiser, Nissan patrol, Mitsubishi Triton, so I reckon I've done me bit for all the manufacturers. I somehow don't think I'll go for another LC, but you never know if I win Lotto or something I might, but I don't think I could handle the Brain implant they make you put in???
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Follow Up By: Notso - Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 19:38
Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 19:38
Sorry that Min, should be Mini
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 16:23
Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 16:23
Sounds like opening Pandora's Box Mark but I suppose if you need to do everything by the book then by all means.
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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 17:09
Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 17:09
Have a read of thread 74472 I went down this road with my Patrol but it got to hard in the end
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Reply By: Member - Wamuranman - Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 17:16
Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 17:16
Apparently the LC200 is rated at 3850 Kg GVM in the USA but in Australia 3500kg.
There are quite a few LC200 owners who have upgraded to 3800Kg through Lovells (they do all work and provide engineers certificate). It is possible to upgrade towing capacity as
well and its cheaper to do it allk at the one time.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Boobook2 - Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 19:00
Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 19:00
"Apparently the LC200 is rated at 3850 Kg GVM in the USA but in Australia 3500kg. "
Wamuranman, These figures relate to the towing capacity, and I am pretty sure it is because 3500kg is the max according to ADR's with the 50mm ball. It is 3300 kg in both cases for the GVM.
You can also get GVM upgrades from ARB, TJM ( both must be done before first rego), Kings, Ironman, Ridepro etc. Most cost about $300 - 400 for the engineers certificate plus the
suspension.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 17:17
Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 17:17
Have a look in back issues of Overlander November 2008 to be exact
There is a complete articlel on what gets done by whom and how much.
WORD OF WARNING It does NOT upgrade the GCVM so although you can carry more you can tow LESS.
Costs were Ironman
$1890 plus wheel alignement
Ridepro $1936 Both of these after registration
ARB Depends on
suspension options BEFORE FIRST REGISTRATION
Prices and conditions of course may have change since then
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 22:09
Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 22:09
You gotta think laterally Mark
My GU weighs less than standard and does a lot more by carefully considering what is really needed in the way of add ons and what can be removed !
Many of the accessories people fit can detract from the overall vehicle performance or are not really necessary !
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Follow Up By: Member - mark and shaz n (WA) - Friday, Jan 29, 2010 at 00:45
Friday, Jan 29, 2010 at 00:45
fair call
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Reply By: Cape Kid - Friday, Jan 29, 2010 at 13:32
Friday, Jan 29, 2010 at 13:32
Hi Mark,
we upgraded our GVM on our 200 series in November 09. It was bought new in October 09. We went the upgrade because we are fitting a long rang tank and dual spare wheel carrier as
well as a draw system along with fridges, tools, winch, bull bar,kids etc etc etc. I am not really interested in others opinions on why or how Toyota should or should not make their cars as the 200 series was by far the best choice of car ( for me ) to do what I wanted to do in remote Australia.
After much searching, I chose to upgrade with Bilsteins and used a
suspension specialist in
Perth to have them fitted. Price wise they were more expensive then other options but from my research they were the best option.
The
suspension place fitted them and gave me a Eng Cert which I then took to a registered inspection mechanic who then checked it all again. Once this is done the DPI then upgrades the GVM on file and it is all done.
It was a simple process. The most expensive part was actually the
suspension not the paper work side of things.
After the fact - very happy with the ride.
Cheers
Cape Kid
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Follow Up By: Member - mark and shaz n (WA) - Friday, Jan 29, 2010 at 13:40
Friday, Jan 29, 2010 at 13:40
Hi, Did it raise the ride height or is it the same? Did it change the tow rating?
Mark
PS. Anyone I should try for pricing?
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Follow Up By: Cape Kid - Friday, Jan 29, 2010 at 14:10
Friday, Jan 29, 2010 at 14:10
Hi
Ride height went up about 50mm.
No I am not aware of it changing the tow rating.
The cost of the whole
suspension fitted was $4100. A lot more then others but personally I think Bilsteins are the best. Have heard good reports on Lovells as
well as ARB stuff. Malaga Springs in
Perth is where I went. Got great service and the owner has a 200 series. The Bilsteins GVM upgrade kit was only just in at the time.
Cheers hope it helps.
The real
test is when we do the CSR this year and also planning a Kimbley trip.
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Follow Up By: Member - mark and shaz n (WA) - Friday, Jan 29, 2010 at 14:17
Friday, Jan 29, 2010 at 14:17
Cheers for that. We are going to the Gib river road this May. Where or what is the CSR?
Canning stock route?
Mark
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Follow Up By: Cape Kid - Friday, Jan 29, 2010 at 14:39
Friday, Jan 29, 2010 at 14:39
Yes CSR is the
Canning Stock Route.
Other usefull stuff is found on the Landcruiser's owners
Forum.
We are in the Pilbra so its all faily close to us.
Cheers
Cape kid
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