Toyota offsets- Prado vs 200series

Submitted: Sunday, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:29
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Greetings all,

I’m about to upgrade from my 120 Series Prado to a 200 series Cruiser.

As some of you may know the Prado has a wheel offset of P30 and 17inch wheels

I have been told the Cruiser has P60 and this model 18inch wheels. Is this offset correct?

My problem if you can call it that is that I now wish to change the wheels on my Kimberley Karavan to match those of the cruiser.

So the question is would this only entail changing the hubs on the KK to the cruiser pattern ie 5 stud and fitting on the existing stub axles….

Or…..

The stub axles not being long enough and the need to change them as well. This would then entail the whole swingarm being changed as the axles are welded to the swingarm.

So I would appreciate any advice from offset guru’s and people knowledgeable in these types of things.

Cheers
Garth
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Reply By: DIO - Sunday, Jan 31, 2010 at 13:07

Sunday, Jan 31, 2010 at 13:07
Have you checked with Kimberley? They being the manufacturers would, in my opinion, be the most appropriate persons to consult with. They after all have full knowledge and understanding of the strengths and any weaknesses of their product(s) and suitability for any modifications. LINK
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Follow Up By: Member - Garth J (NSW) - Sunday, Jan 31, 2010 at 13:26

Sunday, Jan 31, 2010 at 13:26
Dio,

Agree with you.

Just looking for info and a headups for myself.

There are likely going to be a number of options. Some maybe illegal and also structurally not in the best interests of axle loading.

I'll just leave the "space" ............. " " here!!!!

Thanks
Garth
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Jan 31, 2010 at 19:54

Sunday, Jan 31, 2010 at 19:54
I don't have numbers for the 200series, but I know on the Tvan, the IFS 100series wheels use axles that are 195mm length inside the backing plate, while the 120series Prado use 165mm.

So I'd guess you are talking about at least 30mm more backspacing for 200series. I also assume you know that the 200series is 5 stud, so you'd be up for new hubs as well. I'm expecting hubs to cost me $200 each.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Jan 31, 2010 at 19:57

Sunday, Jan 31, 2010 at 19:57
Whoops, delete the bit about 5 stud - missed that when I first read your post.
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Reply By: Jamiee - Sunday, Jan 31, 2010 at 21:26

Sunday, Jan 31, 2010 at 21:26
After owning three new landcruisers previously, I find the current model common rail diesel Prado a much better option anyway. I tow a camper trailer all over Australia, but also a 5.5metre fibreglass boat interstate regularly and it handles everything with power and performance to spare. Sorry if this is not your question but it seems these days that the Prado diesel is the better off road vehicle and I would only revert to a landcruiser if the wieght of what I need to tow makes it necesary. Sorry if this reply is unhelpful but after 20 years using these vehicles my mind is well and truly made up..

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Follow Up By: Member - Don M (NSW) - Sunday, Jan 31, 2010 at 22:43

Sunday, Jan 31, 2010 at 22:43
It would seem to who exactly that the Prado is the better off road vehicle...??? Not anybody I know of and certainly not what comes out in testing. I think they are both capable but you are right, the towing capacity of the Prado is pretty low.

And you say the Prado handles everything power and performance to spare..., imagine then what a TTD 200 series does with the extra power and importantly torque.
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Follow Up By: Member - Garth J (NSW) - Monday, Feb 01, 2010 at 19:59

Monday, Feb 01, 2010 at 19:59
Don,

I like your colour.......

In fact I might get one just like it!!!

Doesn't show the red dust as much!!!

That's internal and external

Cheers
Garth
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Reply By: Boobook2 - Monday, Feb 01, 2010 at 20:36

Monday, Feb 01, 2010 at 20:36
Garth, you are correct. The 200 has a 60mm Positive offset, stud pattern is 5 x 150.

These are the same as a 100 IFS. ( but be aware that no 16" and only some 17" rims and not the 100 17" rim) will fit over the calipers. Most 18" should be fine.

Hope this helps.

You'll love the 200. Only problem is that you will have to make sure you regularly check that the Kimberly is still there in the mirrors. You'll be convinced you lost it when going up hills. :-)

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