Monday, Feb 15, 2010 at 20:12
Wayne,
This is a never ending quest for the "ultimate" product that does all, but unfortunately each one of us has different criteria a I have come to the conclusion that no one device gives the best solution.
I have changed from a laptop, (SWMBO didn't like the intrusion) to a PDA, (best solution for a single device that does all, but a small display), to my current choice, a 5" Hema Navigator which gives me a great solution for OziExplorer and maps for remote area navigation, but an ordinary solution for city navigation and the problem that you cannot run both at once.
So, my solution for voice guided city navigation is a separate Tomtom Go 720 which in my opinion has the best solution for voice guided City navigation and includes ongoing map updates to keep the device accurate and practical.
The Hema Navigator has a practical and compact screen for both visual reference and touch screen interface and as it runs OziExplorer, using the Hema range of maps, gives me a very good moving map reference wherever I travel and records the track plot file and waypoints I add as required.
The voice guided city navigation application (Route 66) is nowhere near as good as Tomtom and as you can't run both OziExplorer and Route 66 at the same time makes this device lacking as a single device solution.
My PDA running OziExplorer (Country travel) and CoPilot (Voice guided city navigation) concurrently, with the ability to switch between both active programs, (using GPSGate) is the closest I found to the ultimate one device solution, with two exceptions.
The PDA is a little too small for my aging eyes to take in the available detail and the CoPilot city navigation application (a really good solution giving almost as good a solution as Tomtom) will apparently not be supported in the future for Australian use.
So, if you are looking for a single device to give you both Country and city Navigation solutions, your idea of a 10" laptop is a practical solution if you can find a practical way of mounting it. Unless you buy a touch screen capable PC however, you will need to use a mouse, or built-in mouse pad, to control the applications. I strongly recommend the addition of Franson GPSGate if you intend running multiple applications as it creates a virtual port for GPS input that can be shared concurrently between active applications.
Unfortunately though, A practical voice guided city navigation solution is becoming harder to find. Both Tomtom (the best) and CoPilot (almost as good) do not or will not provide a standalone application for use on a PC or PDA and my experience with Route 66 so far does not give me the confidence that I would recommend other people to invest in.
When I travel, I start OziExplorer to track my entire journey and as I reach the larger regional cities or towns, I can use Tomtom to give me voice guided directions through the built-up areas, without the need to shut down Ozi and thus lose continuity.
There are other solutions for both types of navigation requirements, such as the Garmin Nuvi device, but I have no practical experience with Garmin and their solution is "proprietary" in that it is only suitable for Garmin devices, unlike OziExplorer which is the "adopted" standard for Country wide moving map navigation and shareable with any device that's runs the OziExplorer application.
Unfortunately, both Tomtom and CoPilot are no longer available in Australia as a "stand alone" application that will run on Windows based devices. This is unfortunate as both provided great solutions for voice guided city navigation.
Route 66 may be OK for people that haven't tried the above two solutions, but is an "average" performer IMHO.
OziExplorer speaks for itself. There is no better solution for a open application to record, track and give moving map display wherever you may be in Australia and uses a wide range of reference maps. NAVMAP Premium and the excellent range of HEMA maps are two that I can recommend.
So, this is my experience with "these things"
Bill.
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Follow Up By: Member - Wayne B (NSW) - Monday, Feb 15, 2010 at 20:57
Monday, Feb 15, 2010 at 20:57
Thank you all for the assistance. and Bill for your first hand experiences.
I had already decided to use my normal Nuvi for city and main road work.
As for Off Road I am thinking my laptop connected to remote 7 or 8" monitor mounded on the dash what are your thoughts on that. The lap top will fit nicely under the
seat.
I can get a Touch screen monitor for around $150 or less sounds like that could be all good ???? What do you think.
Thanks
Wayne B
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 03:44
Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 03:44
Wayne
I wouldn't worry too much about using one unit for both city and country. We only use one. We started using two but with all the stuff we put it in the car it was easier just to have the one unit and swap as required. Only takes a few seconds depending on what base system you have. You certainly do not need both running at once.
Excellent info by the way Bill.
Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - John Baas (WA) - Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 21:16
Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010 at 21:16
Great info Bill. I am currently using an old Toshiba laptop with Ozi and the Natmaps etc hooked up to a Garmin 72 with power cable and separate mouse.
It's great for screen use but is incredibly cluncky and space intrusive; never mind the safety risk in having heavy loose weights in the cockpit.
In your experience, would the Hema N5 give me similar functionality, albeit with the much smaller screen pls?
Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 19:01
Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 19:01
Hi
John,
Yes, the Hema Navigator would give you similar functionality, but in a more integrated form. No separate GPS, power packs, touch screen, etc.
I find the 5" screen gives good visible reference and if you wish to add a waypoint, you simply press your finger anywhere on the screen and the waypoint will be recorded. The waypoint reference can be edited at a later time to better label what the waypoint represents.
The Hema Navigator comes with a full range of Hema Maps, including the Great Desert Map series, etc.
I also have a spiral bound Hema map book and now the display on the Navigator is the same as the printed map.
Bill.
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Follow Up By: Member - John Baas (WA) - Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 20:14
Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 20:14
Thks Bill, that's v. useful.
Cheers.
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