More info on new Patrol
Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 06:01
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Another article on the new Patrol.
Of note:
More significantly, however, the new Patrol will come with four-wheel independent
suspension to replace the current model’s live axle arrangement.
“Nissan has completely redesigned the vehicle's
suspension from the bushes to the links. The combination of HBMC and the new
suspension system with its longer
suspension stroke delivers significantly improved handling and stability on both on- and off-road terrain,” says the Japanese maker.
Longer
suspension stroke from independant
suspension???? Will have to keep an eye on Youtube to see some crazy Arabian
test that out.
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/AE3D8C3E11DF2265CA2576CA000682F4
Reply By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 06:27
Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 06:27
"Longer
suspension stroke from independant
suspension???? "
You need to have a look at the later model Landrover Discovery's
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Follow Up By: Steve Ellis - Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:51
Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:51
Isnt everyone getting just a bit carried away? No one in this country unless they were in the middle east yesterday has seen one of the new patrols yet. There has been to my knowledge been no announcement re diesel engines here or anywhere else. It may be a year before any land in Australia . The landcruiser 100 series ahas had independant front
suspension for a long time. Nobody at this stage knows what version will eventually land here.
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 07:59
Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 07:59
You have gotta Luv the spin
" boasts the notable distinction of also being the first vehicle to successfully cross the gruelling
Simpson Desert in Australia back in 1962,” said Nissan.
" while maintaining Patrol's superior off-road
heritage.”
It will be good for the industry that Nissan seem to be taking the 200 series headon and doing it in the way they did with the 4800 , a petrol engine that kept it ahead of its competition for some 6 years, and with a 1/2 solution for the diesel market.
But I think the writing is on the wall - this car is coming billed as "significantly larger and heavier than the 200 series" which is already to large and also with a massive amount of technology, and going up market into the $80,000+ area.
A key bit of information I read was that the GU is likely to be sold alongside the new car for a year or two much as they did with the Navara's.
Certainly for me it means that the existing petrol GU , which already has all the power and technology you reasonably need , combined with twin live axles and coils , and selling in the $50's just may be the way to go , particularly as I was let down by the new Prado.
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Follow Up By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 09:04
Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 09:04
G/Day Robin
You mentioned in a recent Thread that there will be a consignment of GU Petrol Patrols delivered in the near future, did they give you any indication when?, I have spoken to a Dealer up here on the
Gold Coast and they are only interested in selling their current stock of Diesels.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 09:38
Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 09:38
You prompted me to follow up Daza - local dealer (Dandenong) said the new ones are known as series 7 and have landed and available now but the nominal price is about $60k (selling for $53k september last )
Asked what the new model had extra - he said Bluetooth - at least I would know how to find it now with a trusty Nuvi 765 if it gets lost in a dark
carpark !
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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:27
Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:27
Interesting Robin, seems to me that given the strengthening A$ you would expect them to be getting cheaper and not dearer. I'm not sure where these are made but there are only limited countries that drive on the left and Japan is one of them - would make sense that they are made there (I guess they have outsourced this as
well to Thailand?). My Tiida was mad in Thailand and the build quality is
well below what the Japanese would call acceptable.
Kind regards
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Reply By: Member - Barnesy - Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 09:51
Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 09:51
Looks like I will need to hold onto my GQ as long as I can. Then buy a Troopy. This new Patrol looks like a joke.
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Reply By: rocco2010 - Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:52
Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:52
Gidday
Fairfax's Drive has reported that "... to keep faith with Patrol’s traditional fanbase, the current GU generation that first arrived in 1998 will continue to be sold in Australia beyond the arrival of the new Patrol, which arrives in 2011."
Cheers
Rocco
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:42
Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:42
Seems they are acknowledging that the new Patrol is not aimed at the current traditional 4wd market.
I would guess this thing is now aimed at the high end soft roader market and priced accordingly.
Are they forgoing the probable higher volume sales to try and achieve a higher dollar margin on a lower sales base??
Its an interesting change of thought by Nissan to I would think compete more directly with the 200 Series.
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Follow Up By: Member - Timbo - Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:40
Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:40
It seems they're going after bigger fish - I'd expect the Middle East market would be significantly bigger than Australia so whaqt they want in a 4WD is probably more important to Nissan that what Aussies want. Since they're making the new model, they might as
well send a few off to Oz, but I doubt it's specifically designed/specced with Australian conditions/buyers in mind...
Could also explain why the ZD30 has hung around so long - perhaps their biggest market just isn't that interested in diesel powered vehicles?! (and it's not worth sourcing/fitting a new engine just for the Oz market) - just a thought.
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Reply By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:53
Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:53
LOL, it was only a matter of time before they came around to IFS/IRS.....next thing they will have a monocoque chassis.
Andrew
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 19:13
Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010 at 19:13
Have a look under the current 200 series Landcruiser, there is about an inch between the lower wishboneon the front
suspension and the bump stop rubber.... Nissan would have to be able to do better than that!!! Michael
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Reply By: jorgejhandal - Friday, Feb 19, 2010 at 04:03
Friday, Feb 19, 2010 at 04:03
just go see all the specs on the saudi arabian page of nissan they have all the official launch and characteristics and has more stuff than the new land cruiser interior is much nicer and t more space
http://www.nissanpatrol-me.com/
this is the official page from nissan
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