Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:51
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they would be used only about 60 days a year max. generally. (only when camping) I do plan to give them at least a monthly top up charge when not in use.
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That's good planning. And while they're just sitting there, try to keep them in a place as cool as possible for longer life.
24 hour load budget from your list: fridge 40Ah, lights 8Ah, telly 25Ah, small telly 15Ah, DVD/amp 10Ah, notebooks 40Ah, stereo 10Ah, a total of 148Ah per day. You indicated that only one of these combos will run at any one time, so you've got plenty of leeway with this figure.
Your new 3x120Ah AGM batteries will only see a DOD of around 30 to 40% if you recharge them once per day, less if you recharge twice per day.
This is slight overkill for AGM deep cycle batteries, because the sweet spot (capacity versus longevity versus DOD) can be anywhere between 50 to 90% DOD.
Because you use them only for a fraction of the time, the limiting factor will be their shelf life, not the cycle life - meaning you could increase the daily DOD without shortening their life.
Your second hand ones probably had a residual capacity less than 60% of new. At this stage, batteries not only offer lower capacity, they rapidly become more fragile and prone to
grid breakage and other things in a self amplifying loop.
Your little mishap with the charger only pushed them over the
cliff. It wouldn't have done much damage to healthy batteries, and none at all if your charger had had the battery temperature sensor connected...
Your initial question about the charging voltage setting still remains unanswered, sorry, you'll have to find out from the charger supplier/manufacturer what the voltages are when selecting flooded or gel.
You'll also want to find out from your battery supplier, what the recommended charging voltages are.
These voltages are valid for a 25 degree battery temperature and generally are to be reduced at the rate of 0.25V per 10 degree increase.
Oops, just saw your charger code...
Yes, it's a Durst,
look it up in their pdf.
It says 14.2V boost for Gel, 14.6V for flooded, and float between 13.2 and 13.8V, temperature sensor? n/a?
Yes, you could use it on the 'flooded' setting (presuming your AGMs are specced 14.7V boost), but I'm not sure what the float voltage will actually be. You'd have to measure it yourself - you want to see around 13.6V for an AGM.
Now, we're talking serious 50 amps boost charge current and no temperature compensation...
Thus, be careful when using the charger on warm days and/or warm batteries. Your batteries will lose electrolyte under these conditions which may be ok if it doesn't happen too often. But keep an eye/hand on them during charging and discontinue charging if you feel it's uncomfortably high.
A high battery temperature might prevent the charger from reverting back to float voltage, and things are getting worse quickly from then on....
It's best to select 'gel' on warm days, which gives you a reduced 14.2V boost - slower charging rate but much safer for your new AGM batteries.
When you come
home from your trip, on a cool day/night, give them a top off charge on the 'flooded' setting to ensure they won't sit there, partially discharged.
Also, when set to 'flooded' some chargers add an equalisation stage - this is something you have to make absolutely certain it can't happen to your batteries because the equalisation voltage can be anywhere between 15.5 and 16.5V, way too high for VRLA batteries.
If all this turns out to be too hard, you can always look into buying a highly configurable top notch 25A charger with multiple battery protection features.
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Best regards, Peter
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