Second fuel filter

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Hi i have a troopy with the 2h engine, i travel 3months of the year, so i do get fuel from a lot of service stations on the road. I do get some water and rubbish in the fuel at times , what i want to know is, if i removed the metal water sedimenter tank in the engine bay of the 2h and replaced it with another fuel filter assembly with the glass bowl on the bottom for water sediment (delphi filter with glass bowl) . I want the glass bowl so ican see at a glance, when i am checking oil,water daily on the road that the fuel system doesnt have any water in it . I want to know, is the 2h engines fuel pump able to draw fuel through 2 fuel filters without any problems Thanks in advance for any helpful advice Graham
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Reply By: Shaver - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 16:36

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 16:36
The 2H in the 60 Series had another inline Fuel Filter on the Chassis Rail underneath the vehicle which you could drain when the light came on in the dash. Don't know whether this is applicable to yours though.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham G (QLD) - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 16:45

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 16:45
Shaver i have a 1987 HJ 75 it doesnt have the filter underbody only a small water sedimenter tank near th e brake booster in the engine bay Thanks for your reply
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 22:27

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 22:27
The water sedimenter is on the inside RHS chassis rail on the 60series (its not a filter).
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Reply By: Mikee5 (Logan QLD) - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 16:44

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 16:44
Hi Graham,
I had a Lucas/CAV 296 filter - which I think is the same - on my H engined Troopy (HJ45) and it worked fine, only difficulty was getting fuel up from the tank when the filter was dry - it took a lot of pumping on the primer pump.
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Reply By: racinrob - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 17:48

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 17:48
I'll probably get screamed down but I was told by a diesel mech that the standard two filter setup on the HZJ75 was to satisfy the mining companies who were buying Troopies/tray backs in large numbers.
On mine I removed the element from the primary metal filter housing then replaced the secondary fillter with a CAV/Delphi 296 setup. In a lot of outback travel filling from 44 gallon drums and jerry cans I've had no dramas. As I said in an earlier post I replace the fuel filter element every 5,000 K's when I change my oil. I think you fitting a two filter setup is overkill, JMHO.

Rob.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham G (QLD) - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 18:15

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 18:15
HI Rob the fuel filter on the 2H is slightly different to the hz it is a small spin on filter directly over the inline injection pump not too much clearance to fit anything longer, other wise i would buy the adaptor available for the cav delphi filtering system and put that on. I understand the cav/delphi filter is good gear as i see things i dont have much choice if iwant to use the cav filters. Presently i use a sakura filter and i dont like them, i cant afford toyota filters $47.85 each , cav/delphi filters about $6 Graham
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Follow Up By: racinrob - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 19:44

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 19:44
Right Graham, 2H and HZJ75, I should've realized we weren't comparing apples with apples.
Stating the obvious, dirty fuel is one thing diesels don't like. Rob
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Reply By: Member - Christopher P (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 17:50

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 17:50
Hey guysif filter is vertical, then you should be able to pour some diesel in as a pre primed filetr, did that in my hilux so i wouldn't have to pump it up so much.
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Reply By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 18:07

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 18:07
I've had two 2H engined Landcruisers and added the same Delphi filter housing to both. Most likely the exact one you describe.

I just left the factory sedimenter and filter in the circuit and just tapped the Delphi into the fuel line in the engine bay.

If I had photo's I'd post them up for you. I mounted mine onto the engine lifting lug at the right hand front of the engine. I made a plate for the filter to bolt onto and welded the plate to the lug.

Oh, for those who ask, yes, I took the lug off the engine to weld it and bolted it back on after I'd repainted it.

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Reply By: Member - Trackker (QLD) - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 19:20

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 19:20
Graham, I fitted the same filter to my 2H and had no worries with priming. I would definitely recommend fitting it whether you do heaps of kms or not. Water in general will travel through a fuel filter so the more bowl stlye filters or "storage" you have to seperate and catch it the better. If it gets through to your injection pump, it would not be too good. I did fit an overhaul kit to the lift pump as well as replacing the hand primer pump to ensure there were no problems. If the valves in your lift pump were worn, you would most likely have a problem. Also it is a good idea to change the tiny "o" ring under the head of the filter bolt every filter change as they have a habit of sucking air into the filter as it would be on the suction side of the lift pump if you replace the original water trap. Cheers, Dave
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Reply By: Davo_60 - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 22:38

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 22:38
It will be fine with the mod you have described, however the standard setup works fine too, so unless it's rusted out I wouldn't bother. These engines are not real sensitive to impurities. My mate had is 2h Hj75 drowned in the Katherine floods, as well as injesting some water. Drained the fuel tank, filter and sedimenter, glow plugs out, cranked water out of the cylinders. New fuel and put back together and it fired straight up.

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Dave
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 22:47

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 at 22:47
That is so easy to believe for a 2H!

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Follow Up By: Member - Mark E (VIC) - Friday, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:49

Friday, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:49
They do bend conrods though........take it from me!

Cheers,

Mark
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Follow Up By: Davo_60 - Friday, Feb 19, 2010 at 14:06

Friday, Feb 19, 2010 at 14:06
Luckily it was only idling. We couldn't believe it started again, much laughter!

Dave
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