Motor Trend's First Drive of the New Nissan Patrol

Submitted: Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 07:20
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Looks quite promising! It will be interesting to see what the diesels will be like.
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Reply By: age - Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 09:46

Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 09:46
I wonder if the rumours turn out true that this "Patrol" will be co-sold side by side the existing model whether this will be Nissan Australia's way of creating a similar setup to the Landcruiser 200/Lexus LX570 situation where you have 2 market segments covered. Current Patrol for the 4x4/Caravan/Touring market priced sub $100k and this new Patrol (aka Infiniti spec/Lexus competitor) for the over $100k market. This vehicle spec on show in UAE would have to be nearly $120k in our market. Suppose it all depends how far the Australian spec of this vehicle on show is degraded to get it onto our sales lots.

A ute with the new front end will look pretty good - or even an extra cab/dual cab with a 5.6L V8 and they would have my money.

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Follow Up By: age - Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 09:54

Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 09:54
All

On the web link posted in "recent articles" in the first post is a link about an Infiniti with the new "V9X" V6 3.0 litre diesel

235hp/405ft/lb torque 7 slot auto - wonder if this will be the diesel for Australian Patrols.

Cheers

A
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Follow Up By: Off-track - Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:49

Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:49
Or maybe a better comparison, the GU lineup to compete with the 76 lineup and the new Patrol to compete with the 200 lineup (including Lexus).
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Follow Up By: CJ - Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 13:37

Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 13:37
I doubt it..Your theory means that there will be two models both of which are updated from time to time. Not the case

CJ
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Follow Up By: Wilko - Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 21:26

Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 21:26
2nd the dual cab, If Toyo or Nissan bring one out theyd get my money

Cheers Wilko
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Follow Up By: Off-track - Sunday, Feb 21, 2010 at 00:09

Sunday, Feb 21, 2010 at 00:09
Er, thats exactly what Toyota do with their Landcruiser range, CJ.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Sunday, Feb 21, 2010 at 07:56

Sunday, Feb 21, 2010 at 07:56
Nissan selling the new Patrol alongside the old one isn't like Toyota selling the 200 along with the 70 series. It's like them selling to the 200 against the 100.

Nissan haven't said they will keep selling the GU, they have indicated that they are thinking of it. If you take out the Middle East market, and only say 50% of the GU sales go to the new Patrol then the world wide market for the GU would be in the order of 200 units per month! Not even close to the point of keeping the lights on.

The last thing they want to do is have GU sales stall in the next year or so while they get it ready for markets outside the ME. What better way than to indicate that the model is still "alive" so the punters feel safe in buying the old model.

My guess is they will build a ton of the GU's in the last few months to have as much overlap as possible. After that it is good night nurse for the GU.

Comparisons with the D40 Navara aren't really valid either, for starters, they sell lots of them.

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Follow Up By: Off-track - Sunday, Feb 21, 2010 at 09:39

Sunday, Feb 21, 2010 at 09:39
The GU is closer to the 70 series than the 100 - live axles, pov packs and more importantly a ute range. If this new Patrol doesnt have a pov pack and ute range (like the 200) then they may have no choice in keeping the old range as well.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Sunday, Feb 21, 2010 at 16:10

Sunday, Feb 21, 2010 at 16:10
If Nissan could whack whatever the new diesel is in the ute or even the GU wagon I could believe it. But if they stuck with the current 3.0, sales would be less than they are now, no easy feat.
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Reply By: Best Off Road - Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 13:56

Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 13:56
0 to 100 in under seven seconds, amazing.

13 mpg (21.7 L/100km) seems quite OK for such a brutal machine.

Sounds like it puts a Porsche Cayenne in the shade at a fraction of the price.

If I had a spare $90,000 I'd consider one, albeit briefly. For that dough I could buy a WRX (for performance fun) and a twin cab ute (for practicality).

Still, I'm sure they'll sell. In what numbers remains to be seen.

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Follow Up By: Member - Kingsley N (SA) - Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 17:18

Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 17:18
Bestie,

I wondered about that fuel figure.
13 miles per US Gallon converts to 18.09 litres per 100 KM at this site

convert

That sounds even better. Not that I am interested in a gas guzzler. Here's hoping a reasonable diesel will come our way.

Kingo
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 21:36

Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 21:36
Now that is starting to sound very good.

If, like most Datsuns they are happy to run on LPG there would be a compelling argument to buy one.

That sort of performance that would blow away a Tojo, with cheaper fuel cost would entice me, IF I had a spare 90 to spend on car.

Jim Best.

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Follow Up By: Member - Brad S (SA) - Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 22:04

Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 22:04
Hi Jim

Are you still towing that house on wheels?

Last time I saw you was with the Terracan in the Little Desert.

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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Sunday, Feb 21, 2010 at 07:29

Sunday, Feb 21, 2010 at 07:29
Brad,

No, that Jayco Eagle only lasted about another six months. We then went to a Caravan for ease of set up. That only lasted a year as although there was bugger all set up time we found it took ages to pack and unpack as we live outside mainly.

So in the end I built my own Camper Trailer with slide out kitchen and drawer. Also traded the Jerry Can on a Ford Courier (I needed a Ute for work). Camping is a breeze these days with all the space we've got, not that we have enough time to get away as often as we wouild like.

Cheers,

Jim.



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Reply By: Kumunara (NT) - Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 14:38

Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 14:38
Chevypower


Thanks for the link.

Interesting reading.

Hope it comes with a better diesel than the present patrol.




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Reply By: _gmd_pps - Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 21:45

Saturday, Feb 20, 2010 at 21:45
I dont understand why people would buy that unless as a kindergarden/image car

You get a Dodge Ram, Chevy Silverado or GMC Sierra for a lot less and its much more useful, more powerful and more fuel efficient.


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