R&R Beadbreaker

Submitted: Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 13:41
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I picked up one of these at the Adelaide Caravan and Camping show last weekend and just used it for the first time to change the carcass on the spare rim and see if my compressor could reseat a bead.

It was a simple and easy process and the compressor popped it back without a problem.

I needed one of these last year up on the Cooper, so going by past experience now that I have one it will probably sit next to the tirfor and other recovery gear that I haven't needed since I started carrying it!

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Reply By: Rod W - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 13:51

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 13:51
Yep I've had one for a few years now, dam easy to use.
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Follow Up By: gaia - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 23:53

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 23:53
Would like to practice a change on my vehicle but I'm worried about damage to my 17 'alloy rims.
The bloke at the show supplies a piece of material (about $30 plus) which is supposed to help prevent this but he indicated it wasn't guaranteed to not cause some damage.
Any one tried it on alloys?
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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 08:53

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 08:53
Mine are alloys and were OK. The beadbreaker is fine - you only need to protect the rims when your are using tyre levers. I used a cut piece of garden hose.

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Follow Up By: gaia - Monday, Mar 08, 2010 at 15:04

Monday, Mar 08, 2010 at 15:04
Thanks Pete
First posts so hope this is the correct way of things?
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Reply By: Mick O - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 13:52

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 13:52
Pete,

I um’d and ah’d about buying one at the Melbourne C&C show last year. Ended up being the best bit of kit I’ve invested in a long time. Used it far to many times in the Great Sandy last year. Made tyre changing effortless really. Sure beats using a troopie as a bead breaker ;-)

Also found it a lot easier to reseat the tyres using a standard compressor. No need for the butane gas method.



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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 13:55

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 13:55
Yeah I have had one for many years now and they are the best system without a doubt.

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Follow Up By: Member - John Baas (WA) - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 14:48

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 14:48
I was just going to use the jack to break beads so I didn't have to carry even more weight, but that looks pretty simple and quick Mick.

About how heavy is it?

Great blog thks.

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 14:59

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 14:59
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Follow Up By: Member - John Baas (WA) - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 15:28

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 15:28
Thks John.

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 16:56

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 16:56
JB
I should have added that the only extra you need to carry is a can of "Mighty Mick O Bead Seating Butane"
I hear Mick has it on special this month :-P

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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 17:03

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 17:03
John B,

As well as brealing the bead it makes putting the tyre back on even easier - no rubber mallet required.

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Follow Up By: Member - John Baas (WA) - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 18:00

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 18:00
Thks Pete; I've sent R&R an email requesting which model would be best for the LC200.

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Reply By: Member - Ann D (WA) - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 14:08

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 14:08
Hi Pete,

Yes a very handy piece of kit to have,Ive had one for years and wouldn't be with out,saves a lot of frustration.



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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 14:23

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 14:23
Pete,

What sort of compressor do you have?
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Follow Up By: Rod W - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 15:12

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 15:12
I've got an ex aircon unit (home made job) bolted to the motor... another brilliant bit of gear
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Follow Up By: Rod W - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 15:14

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 15:14
and the base of the bullbar is an air reservoir tank
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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 16:20

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 16:20
A Bush Pig. I was hoping it wouldnt be enough and I would have an excuse to buy a better unit but it was fine.

DOH!

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Reply By: brushmarx - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 16:21

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 16:21
They look like a good tool to have, but has anyone had any experience with the tyre changer/bead breakers on ebay?
They look like the base could be fitted to a steel section that could go in the towbar holder for support and to distance the wheel from the back of the car, and maybe mounted to a camper trailer if space was tight.
At $99 plus delivery, if it worked sound good.
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Follow Up By: Member - desray (WA) - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 02:39

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 02:39
I bought one from the local Malz car spares shop. I could not get the tyres off the rims on my Prado,, bent the bar trying. They would work ok with car tyres but not heavy enough for 4WD tyres. I took it back and got a refund .
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Reply By: Member - mazcan - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 19:15

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 19:15
hi pete
what brand and capacity is your compressor and size tyre
just keen to know as it will help in the purchase of another comp soon
thanks
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Follow Up By: Member - mazcan - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 19:26

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 19:26
hi again
forgot to mention i've had an r&r b/b for ten years and used it on several different size tyres it's lite and very good and easy to usewith a bit off liquid detergent on the bead
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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 09:11

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 09:11
16" tyres and the compressor is currently packed up for our trip to the Flinders this weekend. It is a 70cfm Bush Pig.
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Follow Up By: That Troopy Bloke (SA) - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 09:38

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 09:38
"70cfm Bush Pig"......I wanna see the size of the trailer you use to lug that bad boy around.
No wonder it will reseat beads easily :-)


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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 09:50

Tuesday, Mar 09, 2010 at 09:50
Whoops - a 70lpm!
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Reply By: Member - Flynnie (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 19:50

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 19:50
Very timely thread. I am ordering a R&R Beadbreaker kit tomorrow. There have been a couple of emails to them in the last few days to work out what to get. Main question was whether to get the standard or heavy duty Beadbreaker to go with full tyre refitting tool kit.

Looks like it will now be the heavy duty Beadbreaker plus full kit plus Rim Protector. May order an extra tyre lever as well.

It is for my cruiser with 16" alloy wheels and whatever else might turn up.

Anything else I should add to this order or later on? Only other tyre gear I have is an ARB puncture kit. I have a compressor.

They seem to be good gear and will allow me to travel without too much worry about being stuck with more flat tyres than spares.

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Follow Up By: Member - sdr00y (Beecroft,NSW) - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 21:05

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 21:05
I bought a 19 mm longer than normal spanner to go in the bead breaker kit. That way I don't need to get out a tool roll as well as the bead breaker kit. The spanner lives in the kit.

Did not buy it from R&R just went to local store.

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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 09:09

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 09:09
The only difference between the standard and heavy duty kit is the length of the hook at the end of the tool (and $10!). The HD one can still be used on any sized tyre.

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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 20:29

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 20:29
I am in the process of swapping good tyres from the old Camry that has just died onto the box trailer which has the same size tyres but a different stud pattern.

I could take them to the shop but I thought I should get the R&R out and do it myself, just for the practice.

If I did not have the R&R I would be going to pay the man.

I bought mine about 11 years ago and have only used it a couple of times, to work, it out in case I ever have to do it in the bush. I have never HAD to use it. I reckon it has saved me countless punctures.

As I say I have never been in a situation where I have been forced to use it...but it's nice to know I can.

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Reply By: Andrew - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 11:03

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 11:03
I've been using tyrepliers for years but I am getting soft in my old age. Are the R & R's any easier to use to justify tossing the tyrepliers?

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Follow Up By: Outnabout.. - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 18:32

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 18:32
I have had the R&R for years and it has done a great job.
Recently got a set of Tyrepliers as I teach tyre changing at our club so I thought I had better try it out.

My observations are :

Both units are great.
The tyrepliers are quick to use but need a bit more strength but not much more.
If you don't regularly use them then it is probably easier to rember how to use the R & R.
Tyre pliers pack up and fit in the nooks and crannies better.

Now to tyre changing.
Some people would suggest "i don't need a bead breaker I will use a jack" To those people I say make sure you have recently had your tyres changed. I have seen plenty of experts end up jacking their car off the ground without breaking the bead.

Next thing is that someone mentioned "you don't even need a mallett" Well I have never used a mallet to remove or put back on a tyre and if plenty of lubricating paste is used you can even sometimes put them back on by just using your hands or just one tyre lever. It is not a difficult job and I have trained many women and people that are light on strength to do the job.

I would suggest anyone buying the tyres seeks out from their clubs about the training on offer for actually changing the tyre.

Lastly , if you have the gear then try it at home and practice before you go on your trip.

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