Ford F250 engine conversions ?

Submitted: Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 20:23
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My B/inlaw has a 92 mod F250 ex ambulance, it still has the original 351 V8 motor in it and was converted to gas some time ago. The dillema he's facing is that its done 480,000ks and is starting to get a tad sad, There's no way this bloke will ever get rid of this vehicle , so repowering is definitley going to be on the agenda Just wondering if anyone has or knows of a suitable diesel conversion for one of these fords?, He has it set up as a camper and i must admit they are a good unit for this!, except for the fuel useage!!, even on gas....LOL. Any info i can pass on is appreciated


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Reply By: phil300 - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 20:40

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 20:40
http://www.osr.qld.gov.au/duties/about-duties/rates-of-duty.shtml?showtab=4

Looks like they want there pound of flesh.

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Follow Up By: phil300 - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 20:41

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 20:41
Got the wrong post sorry back to the beeer.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ed C (QLD) - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 20:43

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 20:43
Phil,
alert the moderators, and they can remove this...

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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 20:44

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 20:44
NO Worries Mate....LOL.
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Reply By: Isuzumu - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 20:54

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 20:54
I saw an Ex Amb to nght and was think about the same thing....and I thought maybe an Isuzu small truck motor 4 cyclinder around 4 litres turbo would do the job ok I would think.
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 21:12

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 21:12
G/Day Bruce

Isuzu would be the ideal engine,i was wondering about a 6BDI, best motor ever built in my opinion, But to get one to adapt, could be a issue ...lol.


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Follow Up By: Isuzumu - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 22:22

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 22:22
Would be good to get say Marks Adaptors to design one then I am sure they will be come very popular, Axle
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Follow Up By: Skippy In The GU - Sunday, Mar 07, 2010 at 18:47

Sunday, Mar 07, 2010 at 18:47
I have heard the Isuzu 6DB1 is a good one to use
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Reply By: pop2jocem - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 21:52

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 21:52
Hi Axle

I guess your BIL doesn't want to rebuild the original petrol motor so whatever he fits is going to take some adapting, this in itself can be a challenge or a piece of cake depending on his level of expertise or depth of pocket if he is going to get someone else to do the conversion. As others have suggested the Izusu range are good reliable options. If he doesn't want to lose too much performance he will probably need to look at a turbo version. What about a Chev 6.5lt as Mr Roachie has in his Nissan. Because of the vast amount of room under the bonnet of an F truck space to fit one of these wont be a problem.

Good luck with the project

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Reply By: Road Warrior - Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 11:13

Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 11:13
Being a 1992 model I would guess that that 351 is an injected Windsor...he could rebuild it for nix and it would give you another 500,000klm. Compared to the cost of a conversion, the diesel would obviously be more fuel efficient but it would take a while to recoup the outlay in fuel savings.
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 12:27

Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 12:27
Rebuild the motor in it for sure, cost wise!, But he has always had trouble keeping it running right, it seems when they put the fuel injection to those motors something wasn't right, i've heard others complain about the tuning issue with them as well, Its his money so i guess he'll make up his mind one way or other, is likeing the diesel idea at the moment (that could change when it gets time to part with the dollars ...lol)
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Sunday, Mar 07, 2010 at 07:39

Sunday, Mar 07, 2010 at 07:39
Axle,

What kind of LPG setup does he have? If it's the old "mixer" system I can understand him having problems getting it to run right, but perhaps if he goes with a rebuild and fits direct injection LPG he will have far better results. Also better power and economy tha the old mixer system.

The injected gas I have on my V6 Courier is superb. Smooth as silk on either LPG or Petrol. Hard to tell the difference in performance, but against the stopwatch it is marginally quicker on Petrol. Also uses about 10% more LPG than Petrol.

And I'd suggest the rebuild and injected LPG would be WAY cheaper than a conversion. Also assuming he has access to reasonably priced LPG it will be more economical to run.

Cheers,

Jim.

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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Sunday, Mar 07, 2010 at 09:12

Sunday, Mar 07, 2010 at 09:12
It would have to be the older system Jim, You have made a good point of this!, Will be talking to him soon,


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Reply By: Ray - Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 15:30

Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 15:30
If the man is prepared to do the shopping the mechanically injected 7.3 Navistar was factory fitted in the States in that model. There are a lot of 6.5 Chev conversions around but the motors tend not to have a real good reputation with some. I know a bloke with a 6 cylinder Isuzu conversion which goes well. Another option is a 6BT 5.9 Cummins. Cummins used to sell a conversion kit. Not sure if they still do.
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 17:41

Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 17:41
Thanks For the info Ray


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Reply By: Member - ross m (WA) - Sunday, Mar 07, 2010 at 09:44

Sunday, Mar 07, 2010 at 09:44
Rebuilding the old engine is the only real way of doing it on a budget.
Thyere is no cheap easy diesel swaps for these.
He would be better off letting it go and getting a troopy,but I guess he is old school and still thinks Japanese is rubbish and American rules supreme in the land of cars
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Sunday, Mar 07, 2010 at 12:18

Sunday, Mar 07, 2010 at 12:18
LOL!!, Old school, and stubborn!!, But there is a lot of us like that.



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Follow Up By: Member - ross m (WA) - Sunday, Mar 07, 2010 at 13:39

Sunday, Mar 07, 2010 at 13:39
I got to admit,I wanted a F100 4wd 20 years ago but Ive changed.
Nothings going to beat Toyota landcruiser reliabilty or acces to parts
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