Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S vs Pirelli Scorpion ATR

Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 15:24

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All Terrain (AT) Tyres

When you are looking for a compromise between off-road capability and good on-road manners, an All-Terrain (AT) tyre is the way to go.

ifunk

I'm a fourby newby, about to start on a 3 month trip with my wife to the Kimberleys and back. Mostly bitumen driving but need to be able to handle offroad conditions also. We'll be towing a fairly heavy camping trailer on the back too.

I have a 100 series Landcruiser (275/70/R16) and have been quoted $280 for the Yoko's and $272 for the Pirelli's.

I haven't seen many people talking about Pirelli's on the forum. Any suggestions on which one to buy, or possibly another brand/tyre I should be looking at?

Thanks,
Adam

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Reply By: Kanga1 - Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 15:40

Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 15:40

Hi ifunk, we had Pirelli AT tyres on our previous car (GU111 4.2 TDI) they were a very good tyre, no punctures in 60,000kms, 3 trips through the Pilbara incl Mt Meharry summit, Ashburton Downs road etc some really nasty on tyres roads. With a trip through the Kimberley/ GRR/ Munja track etc . They didn't produce the kilometres I had hoped for, but considering where they went, with no punctures at all I was very happy with them. Have never had Yokos so can't say either way. Hope this helps. Cheers, Kanga.

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Reply By: marcus - Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 15:54

Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 15:54

ifunk,
Considering you are towing a fairly heavy camper trailer you can't beat the strength of a light truck compound tyre for the trip you are doing and for superior wear also.Would recommend the Cooper A/T LT which is slightly dearer but a stronger tyre.
Cheers Mark

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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 21:30

Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 21:30

I have had Cooper atrs on wifes Jack, never again got a small stake on a sealed road, most of my friends have had similar experiences. The Geolander(use them at work) or bridgestone 694/693 are a much better tyre on road or off road with much better punture resistance.
Yes use Lt but anything but Cooper.
Cheers Pete

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Reply By: Nik & Dee - Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 17:26

Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 17:26

G'day Adam

I got a set of the Geolanders on my Patrol (33*10.5 R15) and think they are LT construction (I could be mistaken) I was told by the tyre dealer who is family they are a well priced tyre and comprable to the Bridgestone Duellers.

I would shop the price around a bit though don't know how big a difference the size is $280 seems a bit steep.

I have found mine to be good tyres so far on black top and some sand work. Hardly any road noise.

Good luck

Nik

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Follow Up By: ifunk - Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 17:28

Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 17:28

Thank guys, $280 was the cheapest quote I've recieved so far, the most expensive was $305. Sounds like these are the ones I'll go for.

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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 19:31

Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 19:31

I had the older Pirelli At's on my Patrol and they wore OK

My Cruiser came with brand new Yokohama H/T tyres
Heaps of u know what

I got 28,000 out of them and two I threw away and two are Ok for spares.

Put a brand new set of BFG A/T's on at the start of the trip.

I dipped them yesterday and after 50,000k they still have at least 5mm on them
Most of this was done towing 2.8 tonne

So would I buy any other brand

NO

They cost me $298 each in Brisbane.

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Reply By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 19:57

Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 19:57

G`day Adam,
I have always run Yokohama Super Diggers 31-10.5- 15 and got in excess of 85000 km from each of the last three sets.
BUT because Yokohama no longer make this tyre I am now about to buy Yokohama Geolander GO12 in the same size.
I was quoted $ 215 each from BJ Tmart back in January. $280 sounds a bit much although your`s are 16" and mine are 15".
After a fair bit of checking on both brands you mention they compared very close, six of one 1/2 doz of the other , ended up deciding to go for the Yoko`s.

Regards,

Scrubby

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Reply By: mikehzz - Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 23:13

Wednesday, Mar 10, 2010 at 23:13

I had Yoko ht's on a Subaru and they were crap but I have the Yoko ATS on my current car and they are great. Go figure?

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Reply By: Mark B - Thursday, Mar 11, 2010 at 08:49

Thursday, Mar 11, 2010 at 08:49

Hi Adam,
I also drive a 100 series cruiser. On my last 100 series I had Pirelli Scorpion ATR's (different to the older AT's). While they were just my on-road tyre, I found them to be very good. Great grip, handling on the bitumen and the odd dirt road. Unfortunatley I sold that car with the tyres on. And at that stage were wearing well for the mileage. Didn't take them seriously off road as I have others for that.
I've also previously had Cooper ATR's in LT construction. Worked well for me both on road and off. Not as much off road grip of course as something with a more agreesive tread. These tyres gave heaps of km's - were also pretty stiff in the sidewall.
So either one of these, in LT contruction, would be OK for your needs.
Have had no experience with Yoko's, but have a mate with Bridgestone D694 (in LT) and he's happy with them - also on a 100 series.
Good luck with your choice.
Cheers, Mark.

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Reply By: Member - Barry (NT) - Thursday, Mar 11, 2010 at 09:51

Thursday, Mar 11, 2010 at 09:51

I used Yokohama super diggers for years (about 8-9) and switched to Geolanders for host of reasons when super diggers had some problems and stock shortages

I found the Geolanders somewhat noisy other wise OK

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Reply By: ifunk - Thursday, Mar 11, 2010 at 09:57

Thursday, Mar 11, 2010 at 09:57

Yeh, my mate recommended Super Grippers also, but I can't seem to find anyone selling them anymore. He said the Geolandars look similar to the SG's. Gonna give Bob Jane a call see if they can do a good deal.

Thanks,
Adam

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Follow Up By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Thursday, Mar 11, 2010 at 21:27

Thursday, Mar 11, 2010 at 21:27

G`day again Adam,

Further to my reply above, I rang Jax Quickfit today and got 4 Yokohama Geolander GO12 31x10.5x15 for $200 each F & B.

You dont say where you live, but if it is in central Victoria anywhere email me........ scrub at exemail dot com dot au ....... and I will tell you more.

Regards
Scrubby.

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Follow Up By: ifunk - Thursday, Mar 11, 2010 at 22:22

Thursday, Mar 11, 2010 at 22:22

Wow, there must be a big difference in price for that extra inch (or there is some conspiracy here in Brisbane with tyre dealers). I rang Bob Jane T-Marts and told them I was quoted $275 a tyre (when in fact it was $280), just to see how they would react. The guy was very suspicious and didn't believe me I was quoted that much, and said his best price was $280, and that was a very good price.

I then called the original mob (Tyres & more) to book it in at $280. He convinced me to go to a different size tyre which apparently was more popular for the cruisers and more suitable for what I was doing, for the same price. He seemed to know what he was talking about.

Thanks for your advice, and hopefully I won't have to worry about tyre dealerships in the near future :)

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Reply By: OREJAP - Thursday, Mar 11, 2010 at 15:24

Thursday, Mar 11, 2010 at 15:24

I have had BFG T/A's on L/cruiser,GU Patrol & 2003 NP Pajero best tyre I have ever had also had them on work vehicles,Jackaroo,Hi Lux & Prado....mainly desert work great tyre....cannot wait for them to be made in 18" so I can put them on the Pajero. At the moment have Yoko Geo 12's so far so good some desert & mountain work very good & highway work. Very impressed so far

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