Which Ute ??

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If you had 30g to spend on a 4x4 Dual cab ute auto diesel, what would be your choice ?? Good points and bad of that brand. Im looking at getting rid of the prado and going back to a ute, mainly for room with luggage eg utewell with canopy, water tank, etc which I just cant find enough room in the prado and with a 2 year old and maybe another Im going to run out of room in the prado. Im leaning towards the hilux D4D SR second hand (cant afford an SR5) the only thing the SR doesnt have (not a must but would prefer it) ABS unless it was optioned up which most don't seem to have bothered with, the SR5 has it standard, the sr does have dual airbags. Not worried about traction/stability etc like the prado has.Regards Steve
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Reply By: Mark S (cns) - Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 16:38

Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 16:38
Steve
I have just started looking at a similar thing for next year for us (although will probably go new for GST & ABN purposes..).

For say a 3 year old auto diesel d/cab ute sub 30k, when you look at all the offerings in 2007, it's hard to go past the last of the rodeos from 2007-08 for value.
There's quite a few 07/08 auto diesel Rodeo LX's on carsales (that have that current common rail donk that's essentially in the Dmax & colorado.)

Good?: old school tough design, Cracka motor that has no widespread inherent issues (that I know of), very good on fuel compared to others in class, Good interior room, good ground clearance from stock.
Not so good?: no stumpy lever 4 low range - electronic push button, torsion bar front end (although is this really that bad? - late 100 series has 'em).

You would get a lower mileage rodeo than toyota (also watch for ex-mines SR's that have done their 3 years service).

What I've said here is of course my subjective opinion...There may be some things I have missed and you may have looked at these already?

cheers
Mark
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Follow Up By: Wherehegon - Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 17:02

Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 17:02
Wont be touching an ex mine vehicle, no chance. Thought about the rodeo but was unsure about the torsion front end, I do remeber that, snorkel,diff locks etc were available for the rodeo, I actually was looking at rodeos before I got the prado but was earlier model and I didn't like the way it revved at 3400 at 110, but this was the older 2.8 and it was a manual, I have driven the the last of the rodeos (manual) (3 litre I think, diesel) my cousin has one, top of the range, cruise,abs,electric windows etc but at the time wasnt taking any notice of the revs but must admitt it went extremely well, maybe it was quiter hence why I didnt take any notice of the revs...Regards Steve
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Follow Up By: Tonyfish#58 - Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 18:21

Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 18:21
Wherehegon - I have the 2007 Rodeo - Great vehicle - I have added a lot of mods including the Snake Racing 3" Lift. The torsion bar front end is no issue with this lift, I added lokka to the front and free wheeling hubs. It will go anywhere I dare to take it and that is almost anywhere :-)

Prior to the lift it would belly out in the soft sand, so you will need a lift of some sort.

At 2000rpm I am sitting on 100k and 110k is only 2200 -300rpm. At 3000rpm I can tow my boat up the very steep hills sitting on 75-80k,

Has not missed a beat to date and I have put 70000ks on it.

Regards Tony
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Follow Up By: Tonyfish#58 - Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 18:23

Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 18:23
3000 in third that is :-)
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Follow Up By: Wherehegon - Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 18:35

Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 18:35
Thanks Tony, thats a lot less revs then the old 2.8 mind you the old 2.8 is a great motor as well vey reliable and great on fuel. I love the boat, it's a ripper. Regards Steve
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Follow Up By: D200Dug- Wednesday, Mar 17, 2010 at 00:18

Wednesday, Mar 17, 2010 at 00:18
We got a good deal on a demo rodeo

We put in snorkel lift kit new springs and shocks and lockers and it is a very nice unit to drive.

For the price we are very pleased with it.
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Reply By: Member - Porl - Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 16:43

Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 16:43
Geez you got an enviable choice like -

http://www.carsellout.com.au/ford-ranger-sale-acacia-ridge/ad3369-2008-pj-xl-crew-cab-utility.htm

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Follow Up By: Member - Porl - Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 16:46

Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 16:46
dunno what happend to that link sorry, I just have been drooling over that Ford ranger on carsellout.com.au for $30k in Brisbane. Auto common rail diesel with canopy.

I'd take em all for a test drive, the BT-50, the Ford Ranger, the Hilux, the Rodeo. And check "complaints corner" every new ute seems to have had its teething problems.
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Follow Up By: Member - Porl - Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 16:50

Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 16:50
wish we had a self delete button, that Ranger was a 2 wheel drive, sorry.
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Follow Up By: Wherehegon - Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 16:55

Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 16:55
No probs, appreciated. Regards Steve
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Follow Up By: Mark S (cns) - Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 16:56

Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 16:56
Porl - It looks to be a 4x4! look at the photo of the tub & the write up says 4x4.
Re-commence drooling!!
(I forgot about these - looked at them once but rear seat room is tight compared to others)

link to ranger

cheers
Mark
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Follow Up By: Wherehegon - Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 17:37

Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 17:37
That rear seat doesnt look like it has a lot of room between the front seats and the rear seat, also allowing for a baby seat one side, and one the other facing backwards. Will have to check out the room. Wife loves the prado enough sitting room for us but luggage and all the crap we take is another question, the other option is drag a 4x4 trailer around behind me which was supposed to be finished by now but yeah well I cant rush the bloke hes my cousin doing it FOC Regards Steve
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Follow Up By: Nutta - Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 23:33

Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 23:33
I think rear seat room goes to the latest model triton.
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Reply By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 17:02

Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 17:02
I'd go the hilux or triton as they both have the front end set up the same as your prado. The rest still have torsion bars and offer less wheel travel and bottom out quicker on bumps.
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Dave
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Follow Up By: Tonyfish#58 - Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 18:29

Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 18:29
Dave - Just for your info - Have had absolutely no issue with bottoming out the suspension on my Rodeo and I am not known to be light footed :-)

The lift may have something to do with that - but I would not give a vehicle a miss just because it has torsion bar suspension.

In saying that my old work hiluxes used to bottom out on occasions, but as we all know work vehicles seem to be driven with different rules :-)

Cheers Tony





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Follow Up By: Marny - Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 19:27

Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 19:27
D40 navaras also have strut front ends
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Reply By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 19:55

Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 19:55
Steve!, How about a 130 landy?, only 200,000ks, oil leaks, and rattles come free!, Me thinks you and bubs would look good sitting up in her, Missus in the back!, all for nine GRAND!!!!.......HAhahahaha'



Cheers Axle



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Follow Up By: Wherehegon - Wednesday, Mar 17, 2010 at 18:00

Wednesday, Mar 17, 2010 at 18:00
LOLOL, showed wife a pic of a 130 landy, she said no thankyou, told her there great off road, good on the fuel etc still wasnt interested LOL. OIL LEAKS WHAT !! better get them fixed, unusual for them to leak oil anywhere !!!! Regards Steve
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Reply By: olcoolone - Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 19:56

Tuesday, Mar 16, 2010 at 19:56
With the amount of money you want to spend it doesn't leave you much option, either buy something older or high kilometers or ex mining.

How about a NEW Great Wall V240 4x4 ute, just don'r read the 4x4 mags and you should be all right.

I wanted to by a 2006 Porsche GT3 for under $70000 but all I could find was a burnt out one!......Don't know why they are so dear.
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Follow Up By: Wherehegon - Wednesday, Mar 17, 2010 at 08:43

Wednesday, Mar 17, 2010 at 08:43
30g's for a second hand dual cab doesnt leave me much options, You'r kidding me ?? I can get most of the known brands with around the 100k mark on them and under 5 years old, I did say second hand not new..The hilux would have to be one of the dearer ones and can get an sr d4d with around 100k on it for well under 30 (private sales), rodeo a fair bit cheaper, triton, etc. Great Wall, what a bloody ugly looking vehicle, you obviously read the latest 4x4 action mag with it in there, low front end, drags its bum. and I doubt there will be too many after market products available ?? Maybe I'm wrong but unless there is a big demand for them I doubt ARB will invest too much in there R&D. Regards Steve
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Wednesday, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:32

Wednesday, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:32
Another vote for the Rodeo , three bugbears however , fueltank only 70lt - aux battery room and oil filter a tad to small and a pain in ---e to change unless on a hoist.
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Reply By: Best Off Road - Wednesday, Mar 17, 2010 at 20:33

Wednesday, Mar 17, 2010 at 20:33
Steve,

It's not a diesel, but the Mazda Bravo/Ford Courier 4L V6 running sequentially injected LPG gives you 150 L of fuel for range.

As I know where you liive you've got access to cheap LPG which makes the V6 cheaper to run than a diesel with far more grunt.

You'd pick up a very good one for far less then 30 large.

Something to consider.

Regards,

Jim.

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Reply By: Member - Barnesy - Thursday, Mar 18, 2010 at 01:53

Thursday, Mar 18, 2010 at 01:53
Get a 10 year old 100 series cruiser for 20 grand and spend 10g converting it to dual cab!

Barnesy
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Reply By: Madfisher - Thursday, Mar 18, 2010 at 20:15

Thursday, Mar 18, 2010 at 20:15
Good day Steve,
Biggest problem I have found is it is so much harder to find a well looked after ute.Where as with wagons most get an relatively easy life. Mind you we must have a doz d4ds at work all get a hard time with no real problems.
You will find the ride a lot harder after the plush ride of the prado, have you thought of getting a heavy duty trailer made up, best of both worlds.
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Wherehegon - Thursday, Mar 18, 2010 at 21:57

Thursday, Mar 18, 2010 at 21:57
Hi Pete yes that is my other option. My cousin is making me one up (well suppose to be) but is very sloooow going about it. Im thinking of just out laying the $$$ and buying one already to go. You are wright in finding one that hasnt had a flogging or not knocked around, been a workhorse it is hard to find one that some one hasnt abused, (there is a coulpe of lux's) Ill make my mind up by tomorrow arvo and that will be it, either sell or go and buy a 4x4 good quality trailer. Regards Steve
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Friday, Mar 19, 2010 at 13:24

Friday, Mar 19, 2010 at 13:24
Son got a ripper trailer made up in Sydney, 16in wheel, extra long drawbar(so we could borrow it and put the large canadian on it, gas bottle holders etc seems very well made. Cost him about $2000. If you are interested I will find out who built it for him.Shame we are on one income at the moment because of Sallys illness, knowing you I bet your Prado is a ripper,could have been tempted to sell one of the Jacks.
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: meggala - Thursday, Mar 18, 2010 at 21:17

Thursday, Mar 18, 2010 at 21:17
2 years ago I bought a 2005 rodeo instead of diesel I went petrol mine was ex nsw police came with arb bull bar winch and 129liter tank
cost was around 24k I have no regret going for the petrol as the 6 k I save will more than pay for any additional fuel I use. I get 12.5 klm liter on the highway less obviously in town it hasn't missed a beat. mine has done 145000 klm bought it with 90000. 900 + klm to the tank drove from broken hill to melbourne on one tank. when I smile most is if I have to overtake 2 or three cars with a full load of things and people. less time on the wrong side of the road less risk./
happy hunting
meggala
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