Survey Corners
Submitted: Saturday, Jan 20, 2001 at 01:00
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Trevor Kilner
Having developed a fetish for corners like Cameron, Haddon, Poeppel and Surveyor General corners my life is in tatters until I locate the “corner,” if there is one, at the intersection of NSW, Victoria and South Australia.
According to maps the eastern boundary of South Australia is not a straight line.
Does anyone know if there is such a “corner” and if so how do you get there?
Reply By: Joseph Baz - Saturday, Jan 20, 2001 at 01:00
Saturday, Jan 20, 2001 at 01:00
Trevor we share something in common my wife keeps on saying it is no possible for some one to be traumatized by corners I been planning a trip to all the corners for quiet some time,i have been around OZ 3 times but ths is something more ordinary than normal(extra ordinary) Im waiting to see the replies
Cheers Joe
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Follow Up By: Trevor Kilner - Saturday, Jan 20, 2001 at 01:00
Saturday, Jan 20, 2001 at 01:00
Joseph,
I think traumatized may be safer than having a fetish!
We have done Haddon and Cameron Corners and are off to
Poeppel Corner this winter and Surveyor General next year.
I know we are all mad as we drive 4WDs but some one has to do it.
Have you had a good look at the maps for the Victoria/NSW corner, or is it just me?
Trev
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Reply By: Stephen Frawley - Sunday, Jan 21, 2001 at 01:00
Sunday, Jan 21, 2001 at 01:00
The SA/VIC border was mistakenly surveyed a few
kms west of where it should be. It was put right
where it reached the Murray near the old Customs
House, up from
Renmark. As a result, there is a
dog-leg in the border at that point. The corner
you want is a few kms upstream from the Customs
House where the NSW border meets the Murray.
Incidentally, the little triangle formed by the
dog-leg is the only place in Victoria where you
can look EAST into SA.
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Follow Up By: Camper - Sunday, Jan 21, 2001 at 01:00
Sunday, Jan 21, 2001 at 01:00
The SA VIC border is very interesting. I understand that because of inaccurate time pieces attempts to plot the longitude gave 3 different answers. In the late 1840s a line was surveyed that became the accepted border. In the late 1860s a new survey with better equipment showed the correct location to be a couple of
miles east. Vic had some of SA and didnt want to give it up so they headed for the courts. this disputed area turned into a haven for those on the wrong side of the law. In 1914 the privy council ruled that the border was in the wrong place but that it should stay there. I believe the two states have agreed to work towards re-locating the border. Does anyone have any further info on how this is progressing ?
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Follow Up By: Trevor Kilner - Monday, Jan 22, 2001 at 01:00
Monday, Jan 22, 2001 at 01:00
Hi Stephen,
Thanx for that info. Is the site marked in some way and is it possible to get there?
Regards,
Trev
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Follow Up By: Stephen Frawley - Monday, Jan 22, 2001 at 01:00
Monday, Jan 22, 2001 at 01:00
Easy to get there by boat, but maybe not so easy by 4WD. You would have to be on the
Wentworth-
Renmark road (on the northern side of the river), then try and follow the border (141E) south to the river. My map shows a whole lot of wet-looking country along the direct path, but you may be able to get there indirectly. Alternatively, there seems to be a road on the south side of the river heading northeast from
Paringa through a place called Lindsay Point, which is only about 10kms south of the corner. However, this may not be exactly what you want as I believe that the actual NSW/Vic border is on the northern bank of the Murray.
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Reply By: Brendon Hall - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2001 at 01:00
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2001 at 01:00
There is no corner as such. I may be corrected, but the 3 state borders do not actually intersect. A
check of the map will show this.The Victorian border is a point on the southern bank (Victorian/NSW border) of the
Murray River where the South Aus. border intersects. I believe this point was re-established recently by the Victorian Government Survey Office. I dont know whether a mark was placed. The original survey was conducted by a party led by Surveyor White.
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Reply By: Trevor Kilner - Thursday, Mar 01, 2001 at 01:00
Thursday, Mar 01, 2001 at 01:00
Thanx for the replies however there must be a point where NSW, Vic and SA meet on the southern side of the Murray. South Australians would have to get there by boat?
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Follow Up By: Stephen Frawley - Saturday, Mar 03, 2001 at 01:00
Saturday, Mar 03, 2001 at 01:00
There is - its on the southern bank of the
Murray opposite where the SA/NSW border meets
the northern bank. At this point, if you sit on
the bank with your feet in the water, your right
foot is in NSW, your left foot is in SA, and your
backside is in Vic.
(This is assuming that the NSW/Vic border and the
SA/Vic border are on the southern bank).
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Reply By: Trev - Sunday, Mar 04, 2001 at 01:00
Sunday, Mar 04, 2001 at 01:00
Hi Steve,
Thanx for that. Do you know if there is, or will be a marker? Is the site on private land and if there is any public access. I need a photo to add to my collection.
Regards,
Trev
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Follow Up By: Stephen Frawley - Sunday, Mar 04, 2001 at 01:00
Sunday, Mar 04, 2001 at 01:00
Sorry Trev, I havent been there. The easiest way
to get there would be by boat from the old Customs
House north of
Renmark. Just go upstream for about
3 kms until you reach 141E longitude.
Elura Houseboats (08 8595 8063) operate from the
Customs House - they may know if there is a marker.
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