Off road capabilities of Izuzu

Notso,

The current model Isuzu D-Max is made under licence by the GM plant in Thailand, where the Colorado is also made on the same production line.

Therefore,
THE ISUZU D-MAX IS A COLORADO CLONE, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.


Bill.

Nope, you are incorrect there.

The Holden Colorado/Rodeo is and always has been a rebadged Isuzu.

Holden will shortly stop buying them from Isuzu and go to a South american sourced GM vehicle.

The reson why holden went to the colorado name is because the name was owned by Isuzu and the removed the right of GM to use it.

No I'm not mate. I suggest you get your facts right.
I used to work at GM Holden and my wife still does. Her previous Boss has moved to Thailand as the Plant Manager at the Rayon Plant where the Colorado and D-Max are made, so I'm sure of my information.

The reason Holden (GM) went to the Colorado name is because Isuzu "owned" the Rodeo registered name.

Anything else I can help you with?


Bill.

Mate, it has an Isuzu motor, it is designed by Isuzu. I dunno about you but if it looks like a rose, smells like a rose then to me that's what it is.

Re: The reson why holden went to the colorado name is because the name was owned by Isuzu and the removed the right of GM to use it

Actually Isuzu is now owned by Mitsubishi ( NOT Mitsubishi Motors ). Apparently GM lawyers messed up the handover and the Rodeo brand name is owned by Mitsubishi who will not allow GM to use it.

Im with Notso - My Rodeo has all Isusu parts with a bit of Holden thrown in -

My lift Kit is an Isusu lift kit etc

But !!!!!

Yeah mate, she's an Isuzu alright.

There are a number of "Assembly" plants in Thailand, one of em makes the Toyota Hilux, side by side with bitsamissin Tritons, so who owns what.

Same applies to Isuzu and Holdens I would think. The only twin cab of the big 5 not made in Thailand is the Navarra D40.

I'll try one last time to educate you guys.

The Holden Rodeo was a rebadged Isuzu, as was the Jackaroo. No argument there.
In early 2009, GM and Isuzu decided to cease their joint venture partnership and as Isuzu had naming rights to the Rodeo badge, GM could not use it for their new model.
In the US they already had a vehicle called the GM Colorado and decided to use the same badge for their new 4WD vehicle.
A decision was made by GM to release a right hand drive vehicle for the non-US market and the manufacturing was to be done at the GM Rayong Plant in Thailand.
Thus the RHD Colorado was born.

As Isuzu no longer had a manufacturing plant building a chassis cab type vehicle (they had already scrapped the Jackaroo platform a few years previously) they approached GM and entered into a contractual agreement for the GM Plant at Rayong, Thailand to supply a rebadged Colorado which Isuzu named the D-Max.

Now, it may be that GM source some components from Isuzu as well as a myriad of other suppliers. The source of engines, drive trains, suspension, etc. would come from many suppliers that GM have contractual agreements with.
I am not aware of the source of the petrol and diesel engines in the Colorado range. They may be "in-house", or provided by another supplier. (such as Isuzu)

The overriding fact though, is that the Holden Colorado is manufactured by GM Thailand and The Isuzu D-Max is a re-badged version of this vehicle, with possibly some cosmetic changes.

Hopefully I will convince the majority of folk reading this reply into ignoring non-factual "guesswork" from one or two individuals that simply don't know what they are talking about.

Bill.

Hmm,

I don't quite know what it is that makes me want to disagree with one so knowledgeable as you, just maybe it is something to do with the attitude, not sure but just maybe.

Anyhow they have also fooled The Motoring Report as well so I don't feel too bad.

Quote????

"And what about Colorado? Yup, it's also an Isuzu, supplied under agreement to GM Holden, but with four cylinder and alloytec V6 petrol variants. And IUA? To further complicate the family picture, IUA is owned by Mitsubishi Corp, but not Mitsubishi Motors. All clear now…? (Didn't think so.)"

I can assure you they wont go where 99% of places a real 4by will without some suspension mods

I observed one trying to get up a mild section of the powerlines where all manor of vehicles had made it

I had to winch it and jusdging by somer of the hits it took trying it also took some underbody damage

just before it failed to proceed

Yep, well I guess you'd have to put that in the 1% of places you shouldn't take em EH

Bill please dis-spell my ignorance and tell me who owns Isuzu.

Jeremy

I always found that 4Wding was about 90% driver and 10% vehicle

Jeremy,

I can honestly say I have no idea who "owns" Isuzu.
Isuzu is (was?) a large Japanese manufacturer producing a range of smaller commercial and recreational vehicles as well as their primary role as producer of larger trucks.

My understanding is that they wanted to focus on the more lucrative truck range as their prime business model and stopped manufacturer of the "niche" vehicles, such as The Jackaroo, then the Rodeo and contract to another manufacturer to supply their needs in the smaller niche market. (ie D-Max)

I may be slightly askew of my perception of Isuzu as I have no contact with the Company, but I am sure of my facts on the GM side.


Bill.

No Worries.

Jeremy.

Get outmore - Your real 4 x 4's are nothing but modified vehicles anyway - A Standard Rodeo will do anything another standard 4 x 4 will do.

As stated above 10% vehicle 90% driver - See below

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no chance
sure my vehicle isnt standard
it now weighs over 1/2 a tonne more and the old springs are sagged well below standard hieght but it still made it up there no worries despite running alot less power than a colarado

the colarado didnt because it was too low (you can see where it had bellied out before making this atempt and it had very little wheeltravel

I see your ute has a 3 inch lift and a locker
- could be a reason for that

I have two Isuzus, but not a D-Max one day though.

Let me correct that. Should have read " I was in a group with one that did .....

I have a new D-Max and had to transverse some sand dunes recently - pleasantly suprised - didn't even drop the tyre pressures!

I thought the 6 cylinder Frontera was built in the US. Maybe the 4 cylinder had Isuzu genes?

What happened to the old Rodeo you ask. I traded it in for the Colorado. Didn't get much for it - just enough to fund the accessories on the Colorado. Bugger!

Me too Jeremy.

I traded up from the 3.5 petrol Jackaroo to the Colorado turbo diesel, but it was a "no brainer" for me with the GM staff discount I received:-)

Bill.

You got the GM discount also!! wow!

I ordered mine last November and received it on Dec-30. The price with discount was amazing. Boy you must have got it cheap.

Jeremy.