Invasion by NSW 4WD's

Submitted: Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 09:21
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Is it just me or have others noticed the increase of NSW registered 4WD's in Victoria especially in the High Country? Is it true that numerous 4WD tracks in New South are closed and our neighbours have the only option of travelling interstate?
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Reply By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 09:23

Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 09:23
It is School holidays ;) and also the last opportunity of a decent amount of time to explore the high country before the majority of tracks are closed for winter.

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Reply By: feathery - Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 10:25

Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 10:25
I was in the Vic High Country a few years ago it was great the parks were open and you were allowed to use all they had to offer for free. Came across the boarder into NSW and things changed tracks closed carn't do that or go there unless you are supper fit and walk and the big one is the cost and I am from NSW the expensive state
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Follow Up By: OREJAP - Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:04

Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:04
I was talking to a chap from N/south & he told me how he stopped at a local Vic Town for info on tracks/trips etc. He said the info supplied & the proactive response from staff at the information centre was fantastic. He had the opposite report about a certain info centre in NSW. He was handed walking track information & when he enquired about 4WD tracks/trips he was not received very well by the staff. Maybe the state Govt of NSW are slowing trying to close tracks & save on costs regarding the up keep,rangers & equipment. I suppose if the State Govt. can "herd" the public into a smaller area of the State there is no further need for extra funds,staff & equpment to maintain the Parks. The answer being Close them & let them be or rename all the state forests & state parks into National park & bring on the restrictions.
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Reply By: Wrong Way Jon - Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:02

Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:02
Could say the same thing about QLD registered vehicles traveling about the North Coast and Northern bits of the Gibraltar Range of NSW.
About 1 in 4 are QLD plated 4wd's.
But then again, there always seems to be a lot of QLD plated vehicles running about all over the place these days.
Also I tend to believe more and more people are realizing what a great thing it is to do, get out there amongst it.

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Reply By: briann532 - Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:35

Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:35
While NSW has some great tracks to explore and places to go........

National sparks and wildfires (now under DECC) don't want you in there!!!
They only want the Paddy Palin set to hike in barefoot so they can photograph the out of control weed infestations and lack of maintenance.

From what I've seen (yes I'm one of those NSW plates that heads to mexico, love the high country) Vic Parks seem to do a half decent job of maintaining a balance between use and protection.

NSW just wants you out of the parks. Oh except for visitors centres and picnic grounds and overpopulated campsites where they are happy to help lessen the burden of a heavy wallet.

Why bother protecting it if you're going to let it go to ruin because you can't afford to maintain it?
Yeah, yeah, I know there's two sides to the whole conservation vs usage debate, but really the whole lockout policy is just plain stupid.
Tourism, transport, and retail industries suffer.
Police the idiots out of there and let respectable people enjoy what actually belongs to them (It is a "national" park after all).

Rant over, back to my meds now.

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Follow Up By: Member - Uncle (NSW) - Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:50

Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:50
"Vic Parks seem to do a half decent job of maintaining a balance between use and protection. " x 2.

NSW , NPWS.. needs to take a few pages out of Vic Parks', book and study them.
What we have encountered over the years with their rangers out in the bush has been fantastic. They are always more than helpful to steer you in the right direction with any info etc.

The case with NSW NPWS rangers seems to be, put a badge on my arm, and I rule the world..!
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Reply By: Crackles - Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:06

Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:06
Back in the 80's when the Alpine National Park was set up NSW closed huge numbers of tracks leaving the limited access they have today. At the same time the 4x4 association, High Country cattleman, & other user groups all banded together for big protests which ensured access in Vic was barely changed. Over time Parks closed quite a few tracks by stealth but a memorandum with 4x4Vic now ensures no track can be shut without consultation & has now been turned around to the point where MVO tracks are being reopened for clubs.
The Vic High Country was a bit of a secret up until about 10 years ago & as you have noticed recently we now get a huge number of interstate viisitors. This is probably due to a few things like as suggested access to tracks over the border is very restricted taking on the classic Parks model of pine post carparks with 1 km walks to the destination. There has also been a big increase in the number of guide books, GPS track logs & better touring maps (Rooftops) so people feel a bit more confident navigating around the maze of tracks.
Speaking with the SA ranger for the Ngarkat Park recently she was very keen to have Vic people visit her patch but I couldn't help noice that they close the Border track for 5 months of the year, charge to camp & provide less services than over our side of the fence. Same with SA desert Parks. Almost $100 to camp a few nights when doing a Simpson crossing.
In general Vic Parks rarely charge & have far more options for free camping yet still provide toilets, BBQ pits, shelters etc. In the Sunset Country over Easter they had even dropped off firewood to most of the camps.
There is currently a big push for more 4x4 tourism in Vic with 6 iconic touring routes being developed. While I don't agree with the extra pressure this will put on the bush I think you can expect to see far more other number plates here in the future.
Cheers Craig.............
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Reply By: jschacher1 - Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 17:52

Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 17:52
last time on the way back to Sydney I took the opportunity to drive trough DARGO to OMEO and then further on towards to TOM GROGGIN.
Not sure which way to go I stopped at a convenience store in OMEO and got the most amazing service. Not only was I pointed to the right direction he also suggested some challenging tracks along the way.
The VIC high country is extremely 4WD friendly; not only are all the tracks well signed there is now a website that informs of tracks closure / conditions. (cant find it at the moment)
What is wrong w/ NSW???
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