1900amp jump start packs
Submitted: Monday, Apr 12, 2010 at 21:41
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Jo K
I have been reading old threads (march 2009) about members using 1900amp jump start packs to run fridges while camping and getting 2 days out of them before they need to charge the jump pack.
I'm just wondering if any of those members are still around and still using the jump packs.(or any other members). If so could you give me some feed back on how they are still working.
Reply By: Battery Value Pty Ltd - Monday, Apr 12, 2010 at 22:46
Monday, Apr 12, 2010 at 22:46
Sorry Jo K,
no experience with these, but haven't heard too many bad things about them either.
What puzzles me is this 1900amp rating.
If you wanted to push a current of this kind through a starter motor, you'd have to raise the voltage to 70 or 80 Volts (and blow it up in the process).
So this rating is rather the short circuit current rating of the battery I'd say.
Sorry if this is a bit off topic to your question.
Best regards, Peter
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 at 07:51
Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 at 07:51
It is short circuit Peter , and when the device is new, fully charged , for an instant provided the sun is shining.
Really some parallel gel cells in a plastic housing
As you imagine you wouldn't specify something to designed to run a fridge over time with an instant peak current rating.
The Waeco thumper and some others are at least deep cycle.
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Reply By: Atta Boy Luther - Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 at 06:57
Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 at 06:57
A 75 a/hr thumper is about $850 . I can but 2 x 120 a/hr ritar agm batteries for around the same price .
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 at 07:12
Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 at 07:12
Yes but they are not really portable are they?
The jump start capable Thumpers comes with a pair of leads that simply plug in when required
Bill.
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Follow Up By: Atta Boy Luther - Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 at 07:24
Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 at 07:24
I agree the thumpers are portable . The sd series ritar batteries though can be discharged down to 25% . Ritar 120a/hr sd battery $400 . 1 x battery box with wiring $90 . Voltage sensitive relay = wiring $200 . Ctek charger $300 .
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Follow Up By: Battery Value Pty Ltd - Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 at 08:23
Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 at 08:23
It looks like a balance has to be struck between weight, Ah, and CCA?
What about a portable box with around 50Ah deep cycle capacity, hundreds of CCA, and not heavier than say 20kg?
@ Robin,
....for an instant provided the sun is shining. lol your post makes the sun shine on an otherwise overcast day!
Best regards, Peter
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 at 07:22
Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 at 07:22
Jo,
Be carefull.
The amp rating (is it 900 amp?) is the amount of current that can flow from the battery pack in a short period of time, which is all that is required to jump start your car.
Most of these type of packs however, are only rated at around 17 A/h (amp hour) capacity which is really only good enough to run a fluro light or two.
I can obtain two days when running my 40 litre Engel fridge from the 75 A/h Thumper, but the fridge draws a maximum of 2.5 amps and I have it set on position one, which is cold enough and doesn't unduly drain the battery too quickly.
You would be better off to invest in a Thumper battery pack of 75 A/h for both portability of running a fridge and the ability to jump start your car if necessary.
Bill.
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Follow Up By: Angler - Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 at 17:59
Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 at 17:59
Some of the bettter ones now have a 20A/H battery in them. Same size plastic box.
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Reply By: JR - Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 at 08:22
Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 at 08:22
The point is they are just a battery inside a nice enclosure
to compare costs look at 75A/h AGM ve 75A/h "Tumper"
You could save a lot of money building one yourself - if you want to
The enclosures are even availiable at Electrical suppliers
I have a Blue Apple "outback??" and its now 10 yrs old and still works
well
hasnt worked that hard and kept charged after use.
Theres just 2 small batteries inside all wired to outlets.
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Follow Up By: JR - Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 at 08:27
Tuesday, Apr 13, 2010 at 08:27
Fullriver 75A/hr batters can be bought for around $300 + box and plugs and leads say $100
ay cheaper but you have to do the work
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