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Hi all,

Rang my local Cooper dealer to get a price on a couple of LT-ATR's. Got the price, and while talking to him, he mentioned that they now also come in LTZ classification. Said the main benefit was better wet weather roadholding.

Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with the LTZ? Any thoughts appreciated.

Cheers, Dave

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Reply By: Injected - Thursday, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:07

Thursday, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:07
It sounds like Coopers have admitted that the standard LT ATR's are deadly in the wet, pitty they (4WD Action) didnt do tyre testing in wet conditions as the ATR's rated well in the dry conditions. I live in the tropics and have had my ATR's back to the Cooper dealer three times trying to sort out the wet weather traction issues. The new LTZ's that you are talking about I hope they have terrific road holding compared to the older ATR's. How much is the LTZ's?
Cheers Angus.
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Thursday, Apr 15, 2010 at 13:10

Thursday, Apr 15, 2010 at 13:10
I had ATR's....followed by MIckey ATZ's....after approx 5,000K's both were deadly in the wet.....

Replaced with BFG all terains and after 20,000 K's they are like chalk and cheese.....have to really push to get them to step out, whereas the others would step out even when driving sedately !!
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Follow Up By: Member - The Bushwhackers -NSW - Thursday, Apr 15, 2010 at 13:22

Thursday, Apr 15, 2010 at 13:22
Hi Angus, was quoted $340 for the ATZ. ($329 for ATR)
The dealer is a 4wd'er, said he tested them with pleasing results up in the Barrington area over Easter. Problem is, it was very dry here over Easter for a change!

Cheers, Dave

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Follow Up By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Thursday, Apr 15, 2010 at 20:50

Thursday, Apr 15, 2010 at 20:50
$340......... thats 70% dearer than 31-10.5-15 Yokohama Geolander GO12 31-10.5-15`s ......... Geeeezzz they must be good ?????

And going on Cooper`s reputation not worth the risk. IMO.

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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Thursday, Apr 15, 2010 at 21:39

Thursday, Apr 15, 2010 at 21:39
Dave we have had Cooper atrs on Sals Nullarbor, and I can tell you Bridgestone 694 are far better on and off road , wet or dry and are about $80 cheaper. When a small trig staked the last one, I was almost glad to be rid of them. I would also consider The geoilanders to be better as we use them at work.
Got a spare 245/70 16 atr if its any good to you.
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Member - The Bushwhackers -NSW - Friday, Apr 16, 2010 at 08:01

Friday, Apr 16, 2010 at 08:01
Hi Pete, Scrubby & Gronk

Thanks for the offer of the spare, much appreciated. I am happy enough with my Coopers (to each his own), I was more looking for comments on the LTZ as against the ATR, but all opinions taken on board thank you, I will talk to the tyre bloke this arvo when I get there.

I run 265/75/16 on the Jackaroo, so this accounts for some of the extra cost (especially compared to a 15" tyre), but no, I don't like paying over the top either.

My C/T came with Geolanders, but hard to compare them with tyres on a tug, and my Hilux has Kumho Venture M/T 31/10.5/15, but again, a different vehicle, size and style of tyre, so hard to compare, (think I paid $178 for the Kumho's 2 yrs ago)

Thanks for all input, it has given me something to consider.

Cheers, Dave

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