Towing capacities.

Submitted: Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:47
ThreadID: 77804 Views:2820 Replies:5 FollowUps:8
This Thread has been Archived
Does there exist a list of all vehicle's legal towing capacities and tow ball weights ? Surely the authoriities (RTA & police) have something they can refer to as so many factors affect a vehicle's status, auto or manual, pintle turned over etc etc.
My son is an assessor for one of the largest insurers and tells me they will cancel a claim after weighing a 'van if it is above the legal weight for the vehicle towing it.

Rob.
Back Expand Un-Read 0 Moderator

Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 13:11

Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 13:11
Manufacturers websites provide that information

Roma caravans also provide on their website a fairly comprehensive list of vehicles and their capacities

I agree with your son but only if the weight contributed to the cause of the crash.


Hardly your fault if you are driving along and someone runs a red and T bones the van.

What does that do to the claim.
AnswerID: 413402

Follow Up By: racinrob - Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 14:08

Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 14:08
Thanks Graham and Old Girl, that gives me something I can refer to.
Rob.
0
FollowupID: 683496

Follow Up By: Member - Tony V (NSW) - Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 19:29

Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 19:29
Just to follow up on Graham H's response.

The vehicle is build minus a tow bar, in many cases there are different manufactures of tow bars and they may sell and install a unit at less than the maximum towing rate? see example below.

E.G. Commodore (VT) can have a 1200kg bar or a 2100kg bar (country pack), you wouldn't know unless you check the bar rating plate.

The other issue is that some people don't even realise that some vehicles have different tow rates depending on model.

Example - GU patrols may have identical tow bars and hitches but
3ltr Deisel man = 3200kg
3ltr Deisel Auto = 2500kg
4.2 Diesel man = 3500kg
4.8 petrol man = 3500kg
(All 2004 model)

So unless you check the plate on the tow bar you won't know.

That said NSW RTA do have a web site, its is still being built but it has the manufactures detail. Click here for NSW RTA site and search RVD
0
FollowupID: 683561

Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 20:11

Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 20:11
The legal weight limit is the lesser of the vehicle or the towbars rating.

I found the Roma site to be fairly accurate.

I do agree that both the vehicle and towbar weight should be checked

If however you are buying a bar for a vehicle buy a Hayman Reece made for it.
0
FollowupID: 683567

Follow Up By: Member - Tony V (NSW) - Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 21:15

Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 21:15
Agree with Graham,

I would only buy Hayman Reece for my vehicle.
0
FollowupID: 683580

Reply By: Notso - Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 13:26

Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 13:26
I'm sure the RTA has one internally but they probably wouldn't make it available on line. With the constant updating of specs by manufacturers the only real way is to check their specs.

If you've seen some of the rigs that are getting around, you can understand why an insurance company would want to check van weights where it was relevant.

AnswerID: 413405

Reply By: Member - Old Girl (QLD) - Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 14:02

Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 14:02
Site Link

See if you can find what you want here.
AnswerID: 413408

Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 14:07

Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 14:07
Dont you just love insurance companies?
AnswerID: 413409

Follow Up By: Lex M (Brisbane) - Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 17:58

Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 17:58
So when someone claims on insurance everyone shares the cost.

Why should I (or you) share the cost for someone's idiocy?
0
FollowupID: 683529

Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 21:21

Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 21:21
Why assume they are idiots? Its just there way of coping out of paying.
0
FollowupID: 683582

Follow Up By: Lex M (Brisbane) - Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 21:31

Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 21:31
You missed the point.
The insurance companies aren't the idiots.
The one's towing illegal trailers are.

Why should you I (or you) share the cost of the illegal tower's idiocy?
0
FollowupID: 683585

Reply By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 18:35

Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 18:35
In my opinion the whole caravan towing industry is a bit of a fiasco. I say this because three years or so ago we had a tow bar fail, resulting in a fair amount of monetary damage. No one questioned the cause!! Was the tow vehicle legal with the van we were towing? Yes it was, but no one checked. Was the tow bar & ball rated correctly for what we we were towing? Yes it was, but no one checked. Were we using weight distribution equipment? Yes we were but no one checked. Was the Van overloaded? No it wasn't, but no one checked.

Take a look at the rigs on the road & you will see heaps with the bum of the tow vehicle dragging on the ground & the nose of the van frighteningly low at the front!! & worse, you will read of people on Forums, including this one that WDH are not necessary, even though they are loaded to the hilt with heavy modern day "necessities". Scares the bleep out of me & it should scare the same out of every other road user!

And worse again. How come the RTA or any other authority will allow someone with a basic car license who has never even towed a 6x4 trailer go out & buy a big tow vehicle, a big van and let them loose on the road?

About four years or so ago, that's what they allowed me to do!! Never towed a thing in my life and at age 62 or so I was allowed to to it. No one asked for evidence of training. No upgrade of license. For god's sake I got my licence in 1959 & the only thing upgraded since then has been to check my eyesight!!Nothing else. Nothing!! ( I did organise some tow training for myself of my own bat) But no authority made it essential. They don't give a stuff!! If that's not stupid, in deed irresponsible, then what is?

Every time anyone of us sees a caravan approaching them on the Hwy have good reason & ought to be bleep scared of the potential calamity approaching.

So that's my two bob's worth! Think I might have a beer. Cheers
AnswerID: 413459

Follow Up By: BuggerBoggedAgain - Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 23:25

Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 at 23:25
Couldn't agree with you more on that,when I got my Class 5/HC licence I had to reverse park the trailer, but,anyone with a full class one car licence could go out and hook up a 30ft caravan with not so much as a test of towing or driving, and they wonder why there are so many accidents.
0
FollowupID: 683592

Sponsored Links

Popular Products (14)