Problem with 91 Toyota Surf..

Submitted: Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 20:21
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Hi All

A good friend of mine has a 91 Surf, import job...When he engages 4wd, high or low range, the car pulls to the right hand side and feels like the brakes are jammed on....can anyone shed any light on what the problem might be??...Replaced a buggered CV Joint on the left hand side today as well as new front Disc pads...and made absolutely no difference..
Any advice would be greatly appreciated...

Cheers.....Dave
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Reply By: fisho64 - Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 21:13

Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 21:13
does it pull to the right only when throttle on, only when throttle off or all the time?
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Follow Up By: Dave... Adelaide (SA - Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 21:18

Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 21:18
Mainly when throttle off...just about comes to a complete stop...

Cheers.....Dave
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 21:59

Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 21:59
even though you have changed pads, make sue that the passenger side brake caliper hasnt either got air in the brakes or seized altogether.
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Follow Up By: Dave... Adelaide (SA - Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 22:04

Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 22:04
Yep we checked all that out mate...Really got me bloody stuffed this one....
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Reply By: Member - Rob S (NSW) - Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 21:38

Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 21:38
Dave

Are all the wheels/tyers the same size?

And are you trying 4wd on bitumen hard surface?

As these symptoms sound a bit like axle wind up.
ie' the wheels turning at different speeds will have that effect.

A freind of mine wonderd why his hilux didn't go to well in 4wd with 15" rims on the front and 16" on the rear.lol

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Follow Up By: Dave... Adelaide (SA - Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 21:54

Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 21:54
G'day Rob

I did actually think of diff wind up, but have never experienced it before so wasn't really sure....we did take the car for a good run on a dirt road today in 4wd high range and my mate said he thought it was making a bit of a difference....
Any special thing he can do to maybe fix that problem if in fact that is the problem??????

Cheers......Dave
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Follow Up By: Dave... Adelaide (SA - Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 21:55

Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 21:55
Oh and yes mate, they are all same size
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Follow Up By: Member - Rob S (NSW) - Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 22:33

Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 22:33
If the the wheels are all the same and it is still slowing on gravel /dirt road.
it would appear not to be axle windup.?

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Follow Up By: Dave... Adelaide (SA - Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 18:17

Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 18:17
G'day Rob

My mate sent me an email earlier on today after viewing this post, he informs me that the front wheels are actually 1inch in diameter smaller than the rear wheels....so i guess diff windup could actually be the prob, any ideas on how to fix ????.....

Cheers.......Dave
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Follow Up By: Member - Rob S (NSW) - Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 19:42

Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 19:42
Make sure the rims are all the same.
And the 4 tyers are the same brand and size.

I doubt if they are worn differently in diameter it would make it slow down on gravel.
unless there are, say 2 new and 2 worn below the wear indictors?
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Reply By: Rangiephil - Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 22:28

Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 22:28
Sounds like the diffs are diff-erent ratios.

Maybe It did a diff and PO replaced with a wrecker special and it is a different ratio.

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Follow Up By: Dave... Adelaide (SA - Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 22:34

Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 22:34
G'day Phillip

He has had the vehicle for a few years now mate, and the problem has only started in the last month or so...

Cheers......Dave
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Reply By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 09:15

Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 09:15
Do the front wheels turn freely when jacked up with the hubs locked?

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Follow Up By: howesy - Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 10:58

Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 10:58
Are you suspecting maybe a half ceased diff side bearing or a drive shaft maybe?
Seems to me that you are spot on giving him the 1st logical step to narrow the field there are a thousand scenarios.
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Follow Up By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 13:38

Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 13:38
YEP.
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Follow Up By: Dave... Adelaide (SA - Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 18:18

Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 18:18
G'day Shane

The front wheels do turn freely when the car is jacked up...

Cheers.....Dave
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