Black Wolf Turbo vs Turbo Lite

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What are people's opinions on the Turbo Lite (Polyester) tents?

I know the Turbo (canvas) range is the duck's nuts but what about the newer Lite (polyester) range?

On the 240 models there is a 7kg weight saving and I'm not sure if I really need the durability of the canvas model as I would only be using it once a month at most.

I slept under a canvas tent (Diamentina 240) last weekend and geez it looked heavy. I think the polyester version would suit me more and having a look at the Turbo Lite in Anaconda it does look like a quality bit of gear.

Does anyone have any first hand experience with them?
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Reply By: mylestom - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 16:57

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 16:57
We have a Turbo lite 300 plus, which is the one with the extension out the back.

Have been using now for two years (Approx 10weeks camping), no dramas at all. Love the inside height, the front awning is a bit small. Quite easy to set up and fold down.

Go onto the BlackWolf site and watch the video.

Would Recommend.

Trev
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Reply By: patsproule - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 17:03

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 17:03
We have had a Turbo 300 canvas for 9 years and my parents a 240 canvas for 10. Both have been fantastic and still look almost new. No rips in the fabric, no leaks, no crook stitching and the floor is tough as nails. The support from the aussie importers has also been great with the replacement of the original plastic joints with the stronger alloy ones for free, and then replacing another when I stupidly broke it - again for free.

A traveling companion has the 300 Lite with the extension. It also looks great but takes a bit longer to erect and the floor is a bit lighter in material, which actually makes it much easier to fold on a cold day. Otherwise, the weight saving is a bonus.

All three have stood up to some horrific wind / storms around Blowering and Khancoban Dams in the Snowy Mountains and all have come away unscathed where other brand name tents were totally demolished. But to do this they must be pegged and guyed correctly.

Whichever way you go I am sure you will be happy - they are a quality tent. I would buy another in a flash, and would probably buy the "canvas" (which isn't really canvas BTW) just for peace of mind.

Pat
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Follow Up By: CJ - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 17:36

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 17:36
Pat

I am curious about your comment that the Lite takes longer to erect than the Canvas? I would have thought that there would be no difference in erecting. Packing up the Lite should be easier

CJ
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Follow Up By: patsproule - Tuesday, May 04, 2010 at 06:47

Tuesday, May 04, 2010 at 06:47
The lite in question has the extra awning.
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Reply By: Member - Amy G (QLD) - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 19:37

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 19:37
I looked at the Lite but bought the canvas as it had a better quality floor (I thought the polyester material and construction of the lite were both fine). The $$ saving and weight are definitely good reasons to buy the lite, and you could probably get around the floor issue if you run a ground sheet underneath.
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Follow Up By: ben_gv3 - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 19:42

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 19:42
Coming from a hiking background and owning a Coleman dome tent I always use a shadecloth ground sheet, so in that respect I'm fine with that.

The Lite's certainly are a lot cheaper...
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Reply By: Holiday Hound - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 19:42

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 19:42
We have a BW Turbo and it takes about 15 mins fully up. It has the back extension as well. As commented on the front awning a bit small, but if we camp for more than a few days we extend with a tarp.
We have had no issues iwth it and the quality was much better than a few other brands. No rips, but a few holes where a mouse hitched a ride in our tent bag, also from the poles rubbibg the tent in the bag.
We had our for about 3 years now and has done many trips and pulling up and down for lots of one night stays( as opposed to stands). It has stood up to the big dust storm winds last year when we were in Marree, and no damage.
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Reply By: gh1967 - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 20:52

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 20:52
Turbo Lite 270 here bought from BCF. I have nothing but praise for it. I think in terms of light vs full canvas (I used to own the canvas 300 version) I would probably go with a Lite if you were into short length camping like I am (weekends) and maybe go for canvas for longer stays since its stronger and more durable.

I happened to notice at the Sydney camping Show a couple of weeks back that Oztent has copied the BW design with their new Jet Tents...identical to Blackwolf except with a bigger awning. They use their same rip-stop canvas as their regular Oztents and even stronger knuckles than the Blackwolfs.

I think this will hit Blackwolf hard because the #1 criticism levelled at them over the years has been their lack of living space under their small awnings.

Ironically it may also make some prospective Oztent RV owners look long and hard at buying the conventional RV models if they can get a Jet Tent with much more room (and can stand up in) as well as sizeable awning space. And like the Blackwolfs you can put the Jet Tent into your vehicle instead of on top of it on a rack. This has always been the #1 thing aginst Oztents.

(Sorry to go off topic a bit but I think the Jet Tent is going to see a third entrant into the traditionally 2 quality-tent mark dominated by Blackwolf and the Oztent RV series).
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Reply By: gh1967 - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 20:54

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 20:54
Turbo Lite 270 here bought from BCF. I have nothing but praise for it. I think in terms of light vs full canvas (I used to own the canvas 300 version) I would probably go with a Lite if you were into short length camping like I am (weekends) and maybe go for canvas for longer stays since its stronger and more durable.

I happened to notice at the Sydney camping Show a couple of weeks back that Oztent has copied the BW design with their new Jet Tents...identical to Blackwolf except with a bigger awning. They use their same rip-stop canvas as their regular Oztents and even stronger knuckles than the Blackwolfs.

I think this will hit Blackwolf hard because the #1 criticism levelled at them over the years has been their lack of living space under their small awnings.

Ironically it may also make some prospective Oztent RV owners look long and hard at buying the conventional RV models if they can get a Jet Tent with much more room (and can stand up in) as well as sizeable awning space. And like the Blackwolfs you can put the Jet Tent into your vehicle instead of on top of it on a rack. This has always been the #1 thing against Oztents.

(Sorry to go off topic a bit but I think the Jet Tent is going to see a third entrant into the traditionally 2 quality-tent market dominated by Blackwolf and the Oztent RV series).
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Reply By: chisel - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 22:29

Monday, May 03, 2010 at 22:29
I have a 300 plus lite and am happy with it. Great space yet light enough to easily throw on the roof myself. No problems with any part of it yet and it has been used a lot over about 3 years now.
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Reply By: Gossy - Tuesday, May 04, 2010 at 10:16

Tuesday, May 04, 2010 at 10:16
we have a 240 plus lite and very happy with it. We bought it because of the difference in weight. The non rip material etc still means it's a very strong tent.
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