Pirelli , Yokohama, Bridgestone or Michelin?
Submitted: Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 15:58
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garryk
G'day
I went shopping for new tyres for our R50 Nissan Pathfinder today and the ones being considered are
Pirelli ATR at $249
Yokohama Geolander ATS at $265
Bridgestone D694 at $ 249
Michelin Latitude Cross at $305
I also saw Maxxis MA-751 at $185 but am thinking that maybe we only get what we pay for
The pathy is mostly used for towing the caravan on sealed roads , but occasional use in national parks or for access to good
camp or fishing spots , nothing too muddy or hardcore
I am looking for reliability, good road feel and long life from whatever tyres we pick
Has anyone got any experiences good or bad to tell about these tyres
Garry
Reply By: Member - Gary J (NSW) - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 16:33
Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 16:33
Garry, We have Bridgestone D694 LT's onour D40 Navara. Been to the Cape and back, very good tyres.
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Reply By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 17:39
Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 17:39
G'day Garry
I've got Maxxis A/T's on my Troopy and you are right, you get what you pay for.
I have got 50k out of them so far and will replace them in about 2k. Like others I replace my tyres just above the safety bars.
They were noisy and hard to keep balanced.
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Reply By: wilco318 - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 17:49
Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 17:49
Hi
I have Kumho 798's on my jeep they seem to be ok. Any thoughts?
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Reply By: dave-345 - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 18:38
Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 18:38
Hi go bridgestone, I have a set of D693LT on my hi lux at the moment, and are a great all rounder, these were the ones made in Australia. I've had the same set on my Hi lux for the past five years and work a treat no matter were I go. They are up for replacement just short of 100,000km's. They don't make these anymore so I'm going the D694LT, which are the last ones made in Australia, they are a hard compound. Im paying $230 a tyre at 265/70/16. 'As long as you rotate your tyres every 10,000km, should get 80,000km easy. Hope this helps.
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Follow Up By: happytravelers - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 21:34
Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 21:34
Dave
Who are you getting the D694LT's through at $230. I've been tyre shopping today and was quoted $265 a tyre, although they were 265/75/16, this was through the local Bridgestone dealer.
Jon
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Follow Up By: dave-345 - Friday, May 07, 2010 at 07:50
Friday, May 07, 2010 at 07:50
Hi I live in
Sydney and it was at a Bridgestone dealer on Silverwater Road Silverwater. But saying that I am purchasing six of them along with six new rims, as I'm going away for a three month trip.
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Thanks
Dave
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Reply By:- Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 18:46
Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 18:46
I do pretty much the same kinds of driving as you - but with a camper trailer rather than a caravan. I have the Maxxis 751s on the trailer - and they are good for that - tuff as nails and a moderately square shoulder to minimise sideways movement when traveling slowly on a muddy national park track. They suit the trailer because it doesn't do too many
miles (much to my disappointment!) and the noise from way back there isn't a problem.
For the vehicle though, I will be using Bridgestone D694s as soon as the OEM tyres are stuffed (probably buying them within the next 3 months - definitely before my next trip). I am confident that they will last
well, be quiet on the bitumen and be good in the wet and decent on the dirt.
Having said that, I think you will do
well with any of the tyres you have listed - they are all premium quality tyres - although I reckon you could get the bridgestones a bit cheaper than the others if you
shop around - thats my plan anyhow!
Cheers!
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Reply By: jolo - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 19:41
Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 19:41
I am using Toyo Open Country A/T (not LT) on my R51 Pathfinder and have had no problems. I also do similar travel to what you describe and so far have done 40,000km with plenty of tread left for at least another 20,000km estimate - maybe more as they look only half worn. They are quiet & handle good in the wet (at least for the way I drive). I got under 40,000km with the factory standard Wranglers. I would think the only drawback would be they have a softer sidewall so you would need to be careful in stoney/rocky ground although I did a few km in the Flinders rangers recently with reduced pressures of course. Sorry I have no experience with the ones you are interested in.
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Reply By: Gazal Champion - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 20:00
Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 20:00
Hi Garry,
I had Maxxis Bravo 751 on my last cruiser. They were long wearing on the original set so I purchased a replacement set when the time came. I was running them at 45 psi travelling on dirt and tar roads every day. They are a hard compound apparently. I thought were good due to their lifespan but...
I found that they would let go on the dirt, on gravelly sections resembling marbles, and this is also the finding of 4WD Action magazine in their tyre comparison that they conducted. Their finding and comment was that if you lost control at any speed over 55 kph you would likely not regain control, or words to that effect.
I finished up loosing control at 75 kph, long story, and could not regain control, too much oversteer, clobered a tree and vehicle was written off.
Replacement cruiser required tyres after a while so I decided I was going no where near Maxxis. Got Bridgestone 694s and they are brilliant. I run them at 35 psi dirt and tar. I consistently have to get the left side tyres on the loose edges, marbles, when on the dirt road and the vehicle is that sure footed that it does not cease to amaze me. They are quiet enough for me and I am extremely pleased with them.
But that is just my experience with them.
Regards,
Bruce.
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Follow Up By: Gazal Champion - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 20:02
Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 20:02
Should have added that I live on a
farm and also to a full van of around 2 tonne.
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Reply By: TrevorMR (WA) - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 20:02
Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 20:02
I have Michelin ATX A/T on a Ford
Ranger 4x4 which has done 53,000Kms and the tyres look like they have another 40,000Kms of use on them. The spare is still brand new. They came standard with the vehicle.
I tow a van and do some offroad work. Don't know how they compare with the Latitude Cross.
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Reply By: Madfisher - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 21:51
Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 21:51
I have the bridgestone 694 on my Jack and are happy with them and they are the quietest at tyre I have run. We run quite a few luxs at work and replace the bridgestone ht(which are a very poor ht tyre) with geolanders in a slightly wider tyre and they perform much better on road. But the geolanders only appear to be doing 40 to 50 ks but rarely get rotated or balanced.
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: garryk - Friday, May 07, 2010 at 16:46
Friday, May 07, 2010 at 16:46
G'day
Thanks for the reply's so far
But just to show how my luck goes , I decided to fork out for the Michelin Latitude Cross tyres and now get told that there are none in Australia in that size until Mid June and we leave on a trip and need them before then.
Now deciding on next best is tough because there a lot of mixed reviews both good and bad on the net on those other brands
Garry
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Reply By: Member - Des - Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 12:07
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 12:07
We have Pirelli Scorpion ATRs on 95 series Prado. Very quiet, excellent handling on bitumen or gravel, have stood up to high country low range tracks. Wouldn't say they are a really high-mileage tyre. On current wear expect to get about 60,000km out of a set of 5 (one scrubbed out from wheel misalignment).
Mate has Bridgestone Dueller D694s and has been everywhere in them -
Cape York, lots of outback trips, High Country etc. He has been very pleased and got excellent mileage.
I don't think you would go wrong with either tyre for your needs.
Ours are passenger construction but for towing or hauling big loads LT construction might be more suitable. Might get more kms from them too.
For high kms Cooper ATRs might also be worth considering.
Good luck
Des
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Reply By: garryk - Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 13:40
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 13:40
G'day
Decision made I ordered the Pirelli LT even though they are a bit more expensive than the D694s
They have to come from
Sydney warehouse , should get them Friday , I hope otherwise trip is delayed again
Garrry
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Follow Up By: Member - Des - Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 14:35
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 14:35
Good luck with them Garry. Report back on how you get on with them.
Cheers,
Des
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