Has the kevlar sidewalls rectified the new Goodyear MTRs ?
Submitted: Sunday, May 09, 2010 at 09:47
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Probabally a bit late to be asking as i have 2 on with another 2 too follow
I notice the 15 inch tyres are still a lighter construction than the 16s and even the 16s have one less tread ply than than the old MTR
I had major problems with sidewall damage with the old MTRs (absalutly no tread puntures) copping around 10 sidewall punctures in the 4 1/2 years i ran them. pressures seemed to make no difference with puntures being copped at all pressures from 40 to 15 psi and pressures in between
i considered the new BFG tyres but in the end the kevlar in the sidewalls swayed me
Im hoping the new kevlar in the sidewalls has rectified the weakness in the old ones
typical scenes from most trips which involved leaving nicely graded gravel roads
Reply By: Bryan (WA) - Sunday, May 09, 2010 at 13:57
Sunday, May 09, 2010 at 13:57
I had the previous MTR's (265/75R16) on my GQ LWD Patrol and never had any issues with side wall punctures. i was extremely happy with them - while on trips with other people getting punctures from bad cattle grids, staking, etc we never had any issues or flats. the worst I had was a bad cattle
grid tearing a lug (which I later had vulcanized to repair it) - other people were getting flat tyres/punctures form the same bad cattle
grid.
Im on the new MTR's with kevlar now - yes DAMMM expensive but I was lucky to get them while goodyear had a sale so the price went form $425 to $375 each.
The new ones are much more aggressive so they dont roll as
well - I've recorded slight increase in fuel consumption from the old to the new.
In the sand they are fantastic - I've been on soft sand with them down at 18PSi and there is little sidewall bulge - all increase went front/rear which I was really happy with, one of the guys with us had mickey thompson MTZ's and they were at 18PSI as
well - they had appallingly bad side wall bulge - I thought they were down at 10PSI they bulged so bad - they were fitted to a Disco3...
On the road they have been great - when
perth had the massive storm pass through I didnt have any sideways pull as I drove through puddles - which I had on the previous model of MTR's..
So im really happy with them - doing a big trip to Carnarvan ranges in Aug so we will see how they wear/handle with the camprite camper and car fully loaded for that 2week trip in the bush...
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, May 09, 2010 at 14:49
Sunday, May 09, 2010 at 14:49
Gday Davoe,
You've done
well to stick with the Goodyears. When you're doing that sort of damage on the old MTRs which had one of the thickest sidewalls of any tubeless radial tyre, then I'm a little pessimistic about how you'll go with anything else.
I've bought some Federal Couragia A/T in 235/85R16 for my TVan and might buy a set for the Landcruiser. In this size (and a couple of others) they have a 3-ply sidewall and they are cheap -
mine cost $225 each. Not sure what they cost in 285/75 but at that price I think they are worth a try. My daughter's 80series runs Federals and they are a good tyre - quiet, don't chip and she's had no punctures.
Federal Couragia website
Cheers
phil
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Sunday, May 09, 2010 at 15:05
Sunday, May 09, 2010 at 15:05
Hmmm ive heard them mentioned before. Dont know if I could get them locally but I would have tried to price them at least
I guess with that cut the sidewall held up as it didnt go flat.
still not sure when i did it as i had done alot of beachwork and would have thought id notice it when re inflating
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Reply By: Member - Howard (ACT) - Sunday, May 09, 2010 at 19:21
Sunday, May 09, 2010 at 19:21
The photos you have posted show exactly the reason i changed about 3 years ago from MTR's to Mickey Thompson MTZ's.
With MTR's both my son running 33's on his hilux and myself running 285/75/18's on the 80 series experienced a series of sidewall puntures when sticks hit the shoulder of the tyre and where then trapped in the open sidebiters to end up infilcting a sidewall
puncture which in most cases rendered the tyre US.this is because the sidebiters are between the tread blocks.
On MTZ's with closed top on the sidebiters( they align with tread blocks) the sticks are deflected off the shoulders or at worst punture on the shoulder ,a pain but at least the tyre is still repairable.
I believe its a treadpattern design flaw not a ply strength issue
wouldnt pay the money they are asking to even try the Kevlar MTR's.
regards
Howard
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Sunday, May 09, 2010 at 19:50
Sunday, May 09, 2010 at 19:50
the sidebiters are completly different on the new MTRs
as i said i picked the new ones up for about the cost of what most other tyres are going for (except for cheaper brands)
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, May 10, 2010 at 15:24
Monday, May 10, 2010 at 15:24
Gday Howard,
Yeah, it seems to be the sommon spot where tyres get staked - BFG have it all the way round. the tyre below copped 3 stakes - you can see where its been plugged.
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