goodrich atr & parallel importing
Submitted: Monday, May 17, 2010 at 17:05
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Member - Greg S (NSW)
Hello tyre experts, I think I've settled on the above tyres for the Pajero - noting over half the serious 4wd's at the Rosehill Caravan and 4wd show had them on. Coopers came 2nd and daylight third.
Anyhow I got a price of $300 per tyre in an inner
Sydney city tyre place. I then asked a local tyre dealer who said he couldn't match it and then went on to say the $300 deal was probably from "parallel importing". What the heck is that ?
He said this meant that the dealer would get them from anywhere in the world and said the tyre could come from Britain and that it would be of different compounds to that which comes directly to Australia.
He was basically saying that Goodrich put out differently made tyres depending on where they were to be used eg the cold of Europe would require a softer or harder compound ( can't remember which was which) than Aussie ATR's which would be made from a diffrerent compound.
I remember somewhere in the
forum someone saying they knew of a few ATR's blowing out sidewalls. Equally tho' there was a heated response defending the tyre.
I'm wondering if this parallel importing is possibly true and if so, could consumers be buying cheaper Goodrich tyres not best suited to Oz conditions ?
The local also said the serial number on the tyre might tell where the tyre was meant for so if it blows up in Oz and it was imported from ie Britain, the warranty is defunct ?
Or is the local bloke making up the whole thing to scare me into buying his $320 tyre. If there's anyone out their from Goodrich, I'd like you to make comment and everyone else is welcome to throw their two bob's worth in also. Thanks Greg
Reply By: olcoolone - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 18:10
Monday, May 17, 2010 at 18:10
With tyres, tyre resellers are usually aligned to one brand but can sell any brand...if that makes sense.
In the tyre world there are brand dealers and resellers, the brand dealers get a better price on one particular brand because the support that one brand more.
When we went to Toyo's for our 4x4 we went to our regular tyre place (who looks after our company cars and service vans) to get them and found they were about $60.00 per tyre dearer then the place around the corner from our business was.
We approached him about the difference in price and that's when he informed us of how the tyre industry works, we could by the tyres for the same price as he could from this other mod who were Toyo dealers.
I would say the guy who offered you the tyres for $300 each may be that brands dealer and the other guy is a reseller.
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Reply By: the redbacks - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 18:38
Monday, May 17, 2010 at 18:38
Hi Greg,
I think you will find that BFG is Made ONLY in the USA, they used to manufacture tyres for the aircraft industry & supplied tyres to the space shuttle, they are now owned by the "Michelin tyre Co" & produced under the watchful eye of Michelin as Michelin wanted & needed to get into the aircraft tyre supply business.
Michelin are in totally controlled by the French{what ever Michelin USA says} the quality control of Michelin is second to none WHEREVER they are made,
Michelin do not have a factory in Oz, due to the huge labour cost's so they did purchase a factory in Taiwan, which at the time made "Barum" tyres just to name one, most "65" series profile tyres for the Australian market are made in Taiwan, If a tyre" brand" is made by Michelin it will have after the brand name & country of manufacturer the Initials MTC printed after it = Michelin Tyre Co, 95-100% of "semi Truck tyres" are made in the UK factory, as with some "special" sizes car tyres for BMW,Citron,Mini, etc....,etc, most 4x4 tyres are made USA{but not all} I have even seen a few car tyres with "balance weights" on the inside of the carcass, that's how fussy they are with quality.As far as rubber "compounds" are concerned don't let any one tell you that they know that a certain Michelin tyre has harder compounds as another, complete rubbish, even the guy's working in the factory's wouldn't know, it's the most
well kept secret in the tyre industry, and NO tv or media is allowed into most, if not any parts of any factory owned by Michelin,as for "rubber" used in a tyre nowadays properly about 1% rubber is now used, & it's Carbon Black that gives a tyre it's "hardness" ability, but at the end of the day BFG will give you a better life & performance for your tyre investment, Do i work for Michelin No, but i did for 25yrs.
hope that helped in some ways
cheers
dave
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Follow Up By: Outbacktourer - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 19:34
Monday, May 17, 2010 at 19:34
Pretty sure some sizes of BFG's are made in the land of the rising sun, in particular the size fitted to Prado, got a bad wrap on this
forum a few years back for being too soft.
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Follow Up By: Members Paul and Melissa (VIC) - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 19:35
Monday, May 17, 2010 at 19:35
my work sidekick has BFG A/Ts on his Jeep and they are made in Japan, i had to look twice to be sure but they are. when he comes back from overseas i will post some photos
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