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Submitted: Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 08:17
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is it nessesary to get a suspention base with a fridge. I am looking at getting the ARB/Engel 40 ltr.It will be in a gu111 wagon.
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Reply By: Member - Bob - Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 08:58

Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 08:58
I don't know if a suspension base would solve the problem, but without it I can tell you that aluminium cans wear through, glass breaks, and forget about eggs.Bob
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Reply By: flappan - Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 09:07

Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 09:07
For the engel/ARB's yep, advisable.

You can get away wthout them for the Waeco/Evacools, because of the way the compressors are mounted.
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Reply By: Tony - Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 09:09

Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 09:09
My Engel sits behind the passenger seat and runs fore and aft with the motor towards the rear, cans, eggs and what ever else you want to put in there travel quite ok on trips to the Cape, Vic Alps and everywhere else the GU has been.

A good vehicle suspension set up improves the ride negating the need for a spring base under the fridge.
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Reply By: ian - Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 09:33

Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 09:33
I have a waeco in the back of an 80 series, with very good after market suspension. Long distance corrugated roads, etc, is my bag.
No problems at all with cans or glass. I put eggs in a plastic egg pack (cheap at caravan accessory shops). I agree that suspension is most of the issue.
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Reply By: Phil G - Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 10:35

Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 10:35
Spring bases are a thing from the past - leaf sprung vehicles etc. No probs with coil sprung vehicles.

Best solution with beer cans and corrugations is to buy Coopers Draught or Light - comes with shrink wrap around each 6 pack.

Phil
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Follow Up By: Phil G - Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 10:36

Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 10:36
Just to add, a piece of high density foam under the fridge works better than a spring base.
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Follow Up By: mick - Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 17:30

Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 17:30
Phil,

The problem with that mate is that you'll have to drink six at a time.
BUGGER!!!

And I too use the high density foam in my GU under the fridge, bit of movement but works well at $20

Mick
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Reply By: Member - Melissa - Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 10:40

Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 10:40
Tim,

We've had two Engels over 12 years, have never used a suspension base or similar and have NEVER had any problems with breakages or cans wearing through. Our fridge is placed straight in the back of the wagon and tied down (two of our early 4WD's where SWB Landcruisers and as far as their suspension went, believe me, we felt every bump and corregation magnified). When carrying eggs I place a couple of good strong elastic bands around the carton before putting it in the fridge.

IMHO, the biggest issue is how you pack the fridge. Throw everything in loosely and you'll get a lot of movement (hence rubbing and breakages). Pack the fridge more carefully with minimal spare room and you'll be right (we've had the 21L and now the 40L Engels so there's never much spare room in our fridge). One good tip someone suggested once on this forum is to keep 1 or 2 empty wine bladders and inflate them as required to fill any spare room in the fridge, therefore prevently your foodstuffs from moving around too much.

:o) MelissaPetrol 4.5L GU Patrol &
Camprite TL8 offroad camper
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Reply By: Member - Bob - Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 10:43

Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 10:43
Yeah, the foam is good. You can squeeze it out when the cans have perforated, provided you don't mind a bit of blood from the meat, broken eggs and spilt milk in your beer :-)Bob
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Follow Up By: Tony - Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 14:59

Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 14:59
Sounds like you don't handle your beer to well Bob, better off sticking to Rum.
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Follow Up By: Tony - Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 15:00

Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 15:00
Then use the foam to crash onto.
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Reply By: Outnabout David (SA) - Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 12:41

Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 12:41
Tim,
Mellissa and Phil G are right, modern suspension and pack the fridge tight and you will have no problems. Yhe only time I have had problems is when I was on corrogations and washoutouts and the contents were loosly packed and the milk carton rubbed on the basket wire causing a very small leak. I now travel with and old newspaper on the bottom and well pack the fridge. Never had broken eggs only the rub through.We have so little time to enjoy our land
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Follow Up By: Alan H - Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 12:47

Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 12:47
All I can say is that if your cans are wearing through, you're obviuosly not drinking them fast enough!
I've got a 60 litre Engels bolted in the back of my Defender and the only prob. I've had is a couple exploded over corrugations, probably because I set the temp. too low anyway.
Happy drinking.
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Reply By: Member - Wherethehellawi - Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 12:52

Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 12:52
IMO the spring loaded base is not to stop the tinnies wearing holes in themselves, but rather to give added protection to the refrigeration system.
The engel compressors are hung/mounted differently to the danfoss and the increased springing takes a lot of vibration away from of the refrigerant piping which has a tendency to crack when subjected to too much vibration.
And yes a thick hi density piece of foam should also help in lieu of spring base.Wow! am I cute
If yer ain't fishing, Yer ain't livin
Richard
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Follow Up By: flappan - Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 13:57

Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 13:57
Yep . . . doesn't help how you pack the fridge . . . if the compressor no goes . . .

The "suspension" isn't for the contents.
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Reply By: Andrew - Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 14:06

Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 14:06
We recently went the Cape and had Diet Coke (no beer) in the fridge. There was a bit of rubbing of the aluminium cans if I didnt pack the properly which happens when you go away with me. Murphys law of always wanting something out of the bottom just after you have packed it all away always hits and I end up thowing it all back in. LOL I dont think a suspension base for the fridge would help that a great deal. I use some foam under my 80 litre engel on the slide anyway because the dopes have the plug too low on the to clear the slide anyway!
The other thing I found useful was a block of foam rubber that I cut into strips about 4cm square and about 15cm long that I could use to stuff down around things to keep them from shaking about.
Had a fun trip to Chambers pillar one day and had about a dozen cans of diet coke going off by the time we got there. Lucky it wasnt beer or we would have had to stay the night. LOL. As it was, every tree on the way out got watered. LOL.
Andrew
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Reply By: maverick - Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 19:05

Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 19:05
I've been using the packing that it was sitting on in the box it came in for a couple of years and so far so good.
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Reply By: Willie - Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 20:33

Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 20:33
This might sound a bit boring but we do not carry beer, coke, cans of drink or eggs in the fridge. The Engel fridge sits in its jacket on MDF and is not tied down. It is however built in and is surrounded by more MDF board so it can't move around much. My truck has an ancient rigid suspension and the fridge sits over the rear axle. Never had any problems even on corrugated roads. But I do drive a lot slower that most of you fellas and sheilas..............
Cheers
WillieNever a dull moment
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Reply By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 22:27

Thursday, Oct 16, 2003 at 22:27
Tim my poor old engel sits on a home made slide and is bolted to it . Its done plenty of trips and to date we have not had a problem with it . We had a fellow with us last year and he wraped each can in half a sheet of news paper then put in the fridge. Just a thought.
All the best
Eric
4x4 tag along adventures.Cape York Connections
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