Nissan Pathfinder 2009

Submitted: Monday, May 24, 2010 at 22:48
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We have a new 09 STL Pathfinder and small '1tonne' Jayco Finch Offroad. We have noticed it to be lacking in power, particulalry on hill start at some points almost stalling, and yes i can drive a manual. We spoke to Nissan who said that is a common complaint on boat ramps and manouvering trailers, etc. The car is rated at 3t towing, so my question is have other people experienced this, is it likely incorrectly tuned or set up, or is a 3t tow rated in low range?
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Reply By: Injected - Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 08:30

Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 08:30
Yes common complaint with D40/ R51 2.5 ltr disel motors. Now wish i bought an auto. Ride the clutch then the life is reduced (clutch). Bigger tyres and it gets worse.
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Reply By: olcoolone - Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 09:44

Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 09:44
One of the 4x4 mags had an article 12 months ago about towing and the Nissan was criticised for it's lack of low down power when towing.
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 10:13

Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 10:13
It's probably fair to say that the car is designed to effectively commence a tow in high range, right up to it's stated load limit, but only on near level ground. Low range is provided for situations as the one you describe. My LC100 TD manual is the same - with our van in tow, starts on level ground are straight forward, but I use LR every time when starting off on a decent slope - not a problem - I just shift back up to high range once I get going (shift UP on the fly - but not back down though). You might be able to do the same.
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Follow Up By: Graham & Ann - Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 16:42

Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 16:42
check the maunal, shows towing specs supposedly worked out for grades up to 12%, bad enough getting going again in an auto on 12% grade with 2ton behind I'd hate to try it with a manual and 3T on behind. clutch wouldn't last long at all.
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Reply By: Member - mazcan - Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 12:27

Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 12:27
hi 12ian34
this problem is presenting itself not only on nissans
but on other makes as well since the manufactures have tried to get better fuel consumptions
they have made the gear ratios a lot higher to achieve this
i am hearing comments about most of the lastest vehicles that they are struggling to take off from a standstill i was talking to people at easter time who are also having this problem
when towing a load the drivers are saying you either have to slip the clutch and /or use excess revs to get the load moving

my neighbour and friend had a 2002 ford courier for years and towed his boat and work trailers around for years clocking up 280th km's without any towing problems or clutch issues

last year he traded up to a 2009 ford courier and although its got heaps more power on road and gets a much better fuel ecomony he is struggling to get the thing moving towing the same loads because it is much higher geared than the previous old model he complained and the dealer comfirmed this
i had the specs for his old model hear amongst some papers and we compared the the new specs and found the gearbox and diff ratios were a lot higher

annoys him because he has to drive on and off building sites where there is loose sand etc and he also finds it difficult when reversing his trailers into his drive way the old courier would push the trailerback at idle speeds no problems or take off in first at idle speed

so they aint what they used to be and there is alway a compromise hidden amonst the technical advances
cheers
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Reply By: Horsin' Around - Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 17:04

Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 17:04
My 07 Navara (D40 auto) might be rated for 3 tonne, but doesn't have nearly the power for towing 3 tonne. Tthe hilux and triton have better towing ability. Bit of a shame since it was purchased to tow a horse float...
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Reply By: 1970monaro - Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 17:23

Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 17:23
Hi it sounds to me that it is turbo lag as someone said slip the clutch a little will help it will wake the turdo up laz
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Reply By: 12ian34 - Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 18:39

Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 18:39
Thanks guys, guess i have to put up with it and obviously a common issue, just a shame the money is spent.. not that a heavier vehicle was an option.
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Follow Up By: phil300 - Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 20:44

Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 20:44
The problem is the EGR valve it feeds the exhaust back in to the intake side.
I blocked mine off the difference is unbelievable the engine use to stall very easy. feels a lot less laggy much more drivable clutch might not like it but I do.

Phil.
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