Satellite Phone

Hi all, bought a second hand Iridium 9505 and went to the local Telstra shop to get it hooked up. The staff admitted they knew very little about sat phones, however one girl thought all we needed was a mobile SIM card with international roaming. The next day we went to another Telstra shop and this guy said she was wrong, what we need is a Dedicated sat plan with a sat SIM and number starting in 014.
Can anybody set us straight. Thanks.
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Reply By: George_M - Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 20:45

Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 20:45
Have a look at thread 78932 here.

If you use the satphone infrequenly, you only need a next G or Telstra GSM sim with international roaming activated.

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Follow Up By: ma and pa smith - Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 22:23

Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 22:23
Thanks for that, u were very helpful, and will get a next G Telstra
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Reply By: Member - Trouper (NSW) - Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 21:17

Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 21:17
Ma Pa
George is correct but the simcard must be on a Telstra plan, Not a SATPHONE plan just an ordinary every day GSM mobile phone plan. I got a cheap $10 per month plan and yes you must have Intermational Roaming connected.

Regards....................Trouper

PS if you had a Motorola 9500 which has a large creditcard size simcard then the above does not apply.
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Follow Up By: ma and pa smith - Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 22:25

Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 22:25
We dont have the 9500, thanks for the info, its been confusing and we found this site by accident, and sure glad we did
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Reply By: Voxson - Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 21:38

Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 21:38
ok I have a 9500 with a large simcard and the above does apply.

All you have to do is slot the small sim into the large card and it works fine..

On my next g sim with a normal business plan,, i can slot that into the sat phone and it works fine but the cost is silly.

When a call comes in the caller pays and the receiver pays,,, approx $2 every 30seconds..
When you call out it costs approx 0.40c flagfall plus $2.50 every 30seconds..

But the bonus is that when you get back from a trip you can just put your simcard back into the normal phone and your sat phone can sit there out of contract until next time you wanna put your sim into it without costing anything for downtime during that year.

If you have a dedicated satphone plan like i do @ $30 a month,,, you get $10 of free calls on top which doesnt last long believe me..
BUT,, when someone calls you it cost them 0.60cents a minute and cost you nothing...
When you ring out it is a 0.40cents flag fall and $2 a minute.
Once your satphone plan is out of contract (2yrs) then you can choose to put your account to sleep for up to 3 months every year lowering the ongoing cost to $30 x 9 =($270 a year)... which you cant stop unless you disconnect , then there is a large connection fee with a new 2 year plan again..

I think all this info is very close if not spot on..
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 21:54

Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 21:54
Or you can use an alternative provider to Telstra for a scheme of the same $30 per month $20 calls included, cancel when you get home and re-activate (getting a new number) for a minimum of four months at any time. Should you need to keep the same number, $15 per month 'holds' it for you whilst the phone is not being used.

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Follow Up By: ma and pa smith - Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 22:26

Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 22:26
Thank u very much for all the info, we alot clearer now
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 22:27

Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 22:27
Pivotel also offer Iridium plans in Australia (Pivotel owns Iridium and Globalstar).

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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Sunday, Jun 06, 2010 at 07:41

Sunday, Jun 06, 2010 at 07:41
Peter_n_Margaret replied:
...(Pivotel owns Iridium and Globalstar).

Not exactly. They are one of many Australian resellers of both. Globalstar and Iridium are competitors and both owned by US interests.
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Reply By: Member - Fred B (NT) - Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 23:41

Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 23:41
TR Telecom run some good plans. You can cancel after 4 months. $30 per month ($10 worth of calls included) for an active account, or $15 month when inactive. Acivate and deactivate whenever you want, so basically charges are on a prorata basis. see them HERE
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Follow Up By: Who was that again? (Vic) - Sunday, Jun 06, 2010 at 16:32

Sunday, Jun 06, 2010 at 16:32
Funny Fred, I have plugged the charging systems into a spreadsheet to find unless you are making over two hours of calls a year and using the free calls usefully, it is cheaper to use your Telstra SIM card and Global Roaming account, just like you do overseas.
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Reply By: Bap - Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 23:54

Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 23:54
I have the exact same phone. Last week I bought a next G phone from the local telstra shop on a plan. I activated international roaming and the card works in the phone no problems. So yes go ahead. Calls are apparently very expensive but for me it is for emergency use and limited sms texting.

I didn't try but have been told that the sim must be on a plan and that prepaid sims will NOT work.

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Follow Up By: Member - Fred B (NT) - Sunday, Jun 06, 2010 at 13:04

Sunday, Jun 06, 2010 at 13:04
Correct on all accounts....
On a next G card you will pay for calls sent and recieved... about $4 per min for calls made. Txt is also more expensive than normal. Hence the above suggestion to use TR Telecoms. I have found them very helpful and reliable.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Jun 06, 2010 at 16:21

Sunday, Jun 06, 2010 at 16:21
NEVER ask in a Telstra shop about Satfones cos as you found out they know nothing about them

The last and only call I made from my Motorola 9505A using my normal sim card cost EXACTLY $3.77 for a 1 minute call .

Not about or maybe but EXACTLY $3.77

I was on the Nullabor and rang a motel in Ceduna using the phone exactly as I would have using the mobile NO extra prefixes or anything.

Just remember that if you travel with the sim in the satfone and someone rings
your mobile number they will get you on the Satfone and

IT WILL COST YOU THE SAME CALL RATE AS RINGING OUT $3.77 in my case

You can also send and receive texts but NOT FROM OPTUS OR VODAFONE subscribers.

You can however send one TO THEM Cost either 50 or 75c. I cant remember as its two years since I tried the texting on the phone.

We just use it for emergency situations where there is no mobile coverage but remember the above as you are never out of range while the satfone is turned on so if family rings up for a chat it will cost you bigtime.

The magnetic external aerial is good for using while travelling as well, just bung it on the roof and carefully run the wire in through the door seals

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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Jun 06, 2010 at 16:39

Sunday, Jun 06, 2010 at 16:39
On reading through the thread it seems the two cheapest ways are

A. cheapest Use your existing sim from your mobile when you need the satfone.
Be careful the little sim card hold is fragile.

B Next cheapest Buy a $10 "casual plan" from Telstra and when you finished ditch it I think you have to have it for 12 months.

Everything suggested above is at least $15 a month

I am going to get one for the new burglar alarm I have in my house.

Much cheaper than remote monitoring.

It is programmed to ring both our cellphones if it is activated.

Works on both the Telstra and Optus networks and has Infra red detectors in the house . Can also be programmed over the phone.

Cheers

PS can we ask how much it cost you as several threads on here regarding the cost of 2nd hand ones Mine was $950


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