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Has anyone had experience dealing with "Engel Fridge Shop"? Their website has no contact details and I can't get any response from their Email address.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2010 at 16:36

Tuesday, Jun 08, 2010 at 16:36
Try going through the buying process and see where it leads.

Can often get some details before actually having to pay.
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Reply By: Rob! - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2010 at 16:40

Tuesday, Jun 08, 2010 at 16:40
Sounds like a good reason to stay away.

They don't appear to be listed in
www.abr.business.gov.au
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2010 at 17:51

Tuesday, Jun 08, 2010 at 17:51
Rob, not all businesses are listed, it depends on the structure and how their trading name is associated to them.

That web site is only to do with GST, the best web site is the ASIC Name Search.

We run businesses under different trading or market names that don't appear on the ABR site but we still registered and pay GST for those businesses.

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Follow Up By: Rob! - Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 09:22

Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 09:22
Correct, but the ASIC website comes up with nothing either.

Any internet company that doesn't give a physical address should be approached with caution. A company that doesn't have any contact details other then an email should be avoided.

My guess is that they're not showing their address because it's in Nigeria.
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 09:31

Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 09:31
see below Rob

actually adelaide based I'd say
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Follow Up By: Rob! - Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 09:42

Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 09:42
Not neccessarily. That's the address for the RV shop.

If I was a crim wanting to raise money to set up a drug distribution bussiness I would:
1. Copy a legitimate business' web page.
2. Work from another country
3. Have only an email adress on the website.
4. Collect credit card details
5. Never send any products
6. Charge money to the credit cards.
7. On-sell the credit card details
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 09:56

Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 09:56
I just rang them and explained that they are getting unfavourable comments due to the lack of contact details.

The Engel Fridge Shop and the others spoken about in the thread are a Division/s of Maytow Caravans.
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Reply By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2010 at 17:56

Tuesday, Jun 08, 2010 at 17:56
Good chance of another alias of the RVSHOP .com.au (uses exactly the same prices/menus/colours etc). There is also the waecofridgeshop site exactly the same design

BAD business ethics not to have contact details, and i wouldn't be placing my credit card details on a site that hides its contact details.

Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 08:38

Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 08:38
Caravan, Camping and RV Shops Pty. Ltd
PO Box 103Hope Valley
SA 5090

they have a "contact us" button
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 08:40

Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 08:40
with a registered office at Camden Park SA....accountant's premises?
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Reply By: Member - reggy 2 (VIC) - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2010 at 23:05

Tuesday, Jun 08, 2010 at 23:05
Hi bremer
engel fridge company does not deal direct with public you will have to find an agent cheers reggy2
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Reply By: Member No 1- Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 08:34

Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 08:34
mmmm.......very strange that they dont have a "contact us"

Also noticed that they dont have the padlock symbol in the bottom corner when filling in details

so I checked the "cheque or money order" symbol and filled in details including phone number etc etc...clicked "send order"...and nothing happened

wonder if they ring?
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 09:29

Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 09:29
http://www.caravanshop.com.au/

also has same web site layout

appears that they may be division of Maytow Caravans

just a stones throw away from me....well may be a bit further
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 10:22

Wednesday, Jun 09, 2010 at 10:22
"Also noticed that they dont have the padlock symbol in the bottom corner when filling in details "

Probably because it was at the top of your browser LOL (it is in IE8) No obvious problems with security per se as it is sourced via a secure site (https).

Andrew
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Reply By: Ben May - Caravan Ca - Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:37

Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:37
Due to the overwhelming response to our online shops Caravanshop & new sites RV Shop Waeco ShopEngel Shop
....plus lots of others coming soon!!

I Ben May, Have taken charge & ownership of the IT side of the business
(Maytow Caravans) family business located in SA est. 1982
At this point in time “Maytow” will appear on your credit card statement
(soon to change to)
Company Name: Caravan,Camping & RVShop Pty Ltd
ABN: 29 138 208 581

All new sites are still under construction an please keep checking back daily for updates & for new products and information

We are striving to complete the creation of Australia’s most informative, user friendly, No. 1 online Caravan, Camping & RV shopping websites
Any feedback would be appreciated email me: mailto:webmaster@caravanshop.com.au
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Follow Up By: bremer - Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 18:31

Thursday, Jun 10, 2010 at 18:31
Thanks everybody who responded. I finally traced this business through my bank statement and contacted them by phone. Ben,s reply tells it all. Good luck.
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Reply By: The Lone Ranger - Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 14:47

Friday, Jun 11, 2010 at 14:47
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