Small Outboard Motor - advice sought

Submitted: Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 17:02
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We bought a small tinnie with a Honda Outboard (5 hp) secondhand to take with us on 4b trips up north. I’ve had motor serviced, greased etc but steering pivot is still too tight/stiff for my liking.

If possible I want to separate motor/shaft from transom clamp at the pivot – so I can clean out pivot shaft properly and regrease.

I'm wondering if someone could give me some instructions about how to separate motor/shaft from transom clamp at the pivot.

Here’s photograph if that helps. Any advice appreciated.

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Reply By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 17:32

Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 17:32
Have never owned a small Honda but have had other small ones in the past and one of them (?johnson) had a screw at the top of the column to adjust the 'stiffness'. It was designed to allow the steering to stay in a position without having to hold it, ideal for trolling when fishing.

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Follow Up By: jdwynn (Adelaide) - Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 17:40

Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 17:40
thanks Alastair, but I've had screw out - still just as tight. Cheers
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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 17:33

Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 17:33
On some outboards there is a screw or knob that is used to adjust the stiffness of the steering, by tightening or loosening it you can adjust the "looseness".
There is also usually a grease nipple to lube the pivot as well.
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Follow Up By: jdwynn (Adelaide) - Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 17:38

Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 17:38
thanks Chaps, but I can take the screw right out and it makes no difference. Still very stiff. Also I've read about heating up pivot shaft (with a flame!!) - I dont want that either. Cheers
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Follow Up By: jdwynn (Adelaide) - Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 17:43

Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 17:43
Peter, re the grease nipple, it's been greased. But it's at bottom of pivot shaft so I can't see how that can be very effective. New grease coming out at bottom only. Cheers
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Reply By: 3GoBush - Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 17:41

Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 17:41
On a Honda between the transom and the bottom of the engine at the front, there is a flat leaver that swings left or right, this will increase or decrease the tension of the tiller.
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Follow Up By: jdwynn (Adelaide) - Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 17:57

Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 17:57
thanks 3GoBush, sounds promising. Just wondering if you can see it on these photos cos I dont know about it.

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Follow Up By: 3GoBush - Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 18:02

Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 18:02
No I cant, mine is a 50hp Honda, I thought they may have the same type of arrangement sorry
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Follow Up By: Bushtrek - Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 21:18

Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 21:18
Your looking for the "Steering Friction Bolt" on the top side of the leg just underneath the motor base.
I think I can see it in the "Left side" photo above.
Anti-clockwise turn will loosen the clamping effect on the shaft.

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Follow Up By: jdwynn (Adelaide) - Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 22:14

Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 22:14
thanks Bushtrek, but I've had screw out - still just as tight. Cheers
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Reply By: silkwood - Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 22:36

Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 22:36
I've checked the owner's manual and all I can see is instruction to grease the swivel case, which I presume they've done with the service. Other than that there's only the Steering Friction Bolt which you say you've already loosened. Maybe there's some corrosion in the shaft, in which case take a couple of days of slowly swivelling the joint and it might loosen up as the lubricant makes its way through. Though if that is the case, I'd get it taken apart for further maintenance. Other than that, maybe it has had some transport damage? Sorry, I've never taken mine apart, can't help with removing the shaft. Hope it works out.

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Follow Up By: jdwynn (Adelaide) - Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 22:46

Sunday, Jun 13, 2010 at 22:46
thanks Mark. Im guessing corrision n the shaft too. Also just looks like grease not getting to most of shaft. Proving to be a tough one. I'm trying to lay my hands on service manual. No luck yet. They're on ebay but for earlier years (mine about 2006). Might end up getting what's available - doubt much has changed. Still hoping to do it myself to save a few pennies and learn a bit. Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Niss42 - Monday, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:24

Monday, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:24
G'day jd
Check out this web site.

http://marine.honda.com/owners

You can download complete manual.

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