Looking for advice on Spot Lights

I am looking for opinions on spot lights, I had Hella 200's and am looking to replace them as they are broken. I am looking at Light Force but would like your opinion on these and others and also are light force HID lights worth the money?
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Reply By: oldpop - Friday, Jul 16, 2010 at 20:00

Friday, Jul 16, 2010 at 20:00

Replaced my Hella,s with some Lightforce 240XGT absolutely fantastic should have done it ages ago both spot beams but great distance and spread HID would be better mine a good 900 meters of light more than enough I think HID's about 1.5 Kms


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Reply By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Friday, Jul 16, 2010 at 20:19

Friday, Jul 16, 2010 at 20:19
you will only get 900 metres at 1 lux out of the 240's
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Jul 16, 2010 at 22:25

Friday, Jul 16, 2010 at 22:25
On my previous vehicle I had a pair of IPF's.
Good light beam but a few trips over corrugations and the metal eventually fatigued around the mounting bracket and I had to replace the outer casing on both lights. (at $50 or so each). I Also found I didn't use them all that much.

With my current vehicle, I considered what I would put on.
The decision was.....nothing and I have saved heaps.

I just don't want to be driving at night by choice and would much sooner be sitting around a camp fire gazing into the embers than staring down the road looking for skippy or worse to emerge from the edge of the brightly illuminated area.

Maybe it's just an age thing!


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Follow Up By: Member - Damien L (Cairns) - Saturday, Jul 17, 2010 at 19:36

Saturday, Jul 17, 2010 at 19:36
Totally agree Bill, I dont have any eother as I hate driving at night and avoid it at all cost.

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Reply By: Member - evren1 (WA) - Friday, Jul 16, 2010 at 23:16

Friday, Jul 16, 2010 at 23:16
lightforce 240's do it for me!

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Reply By: Muntoo - Saturday, Jul 17, 2010 at 00:59

Saturday, Jul 17, 2010 at 00:59
I have researched and used alot of lights in my time. I do alot of night driving, and i insist on having good quality lights in front of me. It all depends how much money you wanna spend and what you want from your lights.

My favourites are the Lightforce 240s, and Hella 4000. The Lightforce shine further the any other light, but the spread is terrible. They are spotlights and wont spread, no matter what you do with covers or by unscrewing them. The light just becomes scattered and patheic with the covers. Also the 240 Blitz relfectors can be unscrewed and stolen, and it is common. So the XGT are a better option as they have a far better mounting and body. They are both identical in light output.

The Hellas are great for allround light quality, but they are heavy and the little allen keys rattle loose over time, so locktite them in. They are great lights though. These are the 2 lights(Lightforce and Hella 4000) you will see on long haul trucks the most. I have both the LF and the 4000s and are both converted to HID. Factory HID isnt worth it, retrofit them yourself with a kit off Ebay or genuine Lightforce kit. While i dont believe the HIDs make them heaps brighter, they do provide a way nicer light. My eyes love HID light, and i am no longer tired after driving long distances at night.

I use 2 Hella 4000 spots and 2 LF spots, and this is the perfect amount of light for me. If i was to buy just one set though i would go for the Hella 4000s in spot/spread combo.

For a cheaper set of lights though, the Hella 1000, Narva 175 and Nite Stalker 175 are the pick of the bunch. They perform very well. All perform better with HID aswell. I would probably buy any of them 3 before i brought any other IPF, Cibie, Narva 225 etc.

Ebay is the best place to buy lights also. Dont pay anymore then $230 each for the Hellas, and $195 each for the Lightforce 240Blitz, or $485 for the XGT.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Saturday, Jul 17, 2010 at 09:52

Saturday, Jul 17, 2010 at 09:52
Did you ever try the Lucas Flame-thrower of around 1965, had 1 on my EK Holden. they were good for back then but today we have far better lighting.

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Follow Up By: Muntoo - Saturday, Jul 17, 2010 at 17:04

Saturday, Jul 17, 2010 at 17:04
Nah never tried those, the name is impressive enough.
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Follow Up By: Alan S (WA) - Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 13:58

Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 13:58
Lucas didn't get named the "Prince of Darkness" for nothing though.

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Reply By: 80seriescruiser - Saturday, Jul 17, 2010 at 01:00

Saturday, Jul 17, 2010 at 01:00
I got a pair of RooLights. Did the wiring myself from the box, very simple. I have them focused on wide beam so you can see straying stock off to the sides of the road but the box (advertising for what its worth) reckoned you could see 700m with them.
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Reply By: Shaver - Saturday, Jul 17, 2010 at 11:56

Saturday, Jul 17, 2010 at 11:56
Look at a pair of Narva Ultima 225's. I have a set on the Cruiser and they compare very favourably with the Lightforce at half the price complete with Loom. In fact I get sick of being flashed at by oncomming vehicles at long distance. In retrospect if you have a vehicle with good high beams like the 200 Series I would go for 2 Spots instead of a combination Spot & Spread.
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Reply By: Wilko - Saturday, Jul 17, 2010 at 18:09

Saturday, Jul 17, 2010 at 18:09
Hi Vernp,

I like the lightforce 170's Yes the 240's are brighter/have a longer beam but do you need the extra light. I prefer a good spread approx 200mts down the road then 800mts down the road.

I always have mine pointing slightly apart which lights up the table drains around the 200mt mark.

Cheers Wilko
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Reply By: OREJAP - Sunday, Jul 18, 2010 at 13:20

Sunday, Jul 18, 2010 at 13:20
IPF Extremes....1 spread beam & one pencil. If you want to spend big bucks & keep the lights for 20 years try....Cibie would be one of the best on the market IMHO..
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Reply By: nsngood - Sunday, Jul 18, 2010 at 14:37

Sunday, Jul 18, 2010 at 14:37
I have two hella 4000's and two bull lamps. All 4 have been converted to HID.
The bull lamps are a better light in respect that they appear to send more light out the front at a good spread.They are both spotlights.
the hella's are also a good light but because i have one spread and one spot they dont appear quite as bright as the bull lamps.
If i could find cibie oscars for a good price and i could convert them to HID i would give them a go as well.
I know light-force have the ad where they shoot them with a shotgun and they still work etc but they just don't float my boat.
I see more hella 4000's on the front of trucks in my long distance travels than i do lightforce.
If you have lots of money Coventry's have bit of good deal going on hella HID at the moment.You will still pay $900 for the smaller ones and $1000+ for the larger ones.EACH.

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Follow Up By: awill4x4 - Sunday, Jul 18, 2010 at 16:35

Sunday, Jul 18, 2010 at 16:35
Hella 4000's for me also and they have been converted to 55W HID as well. I picked the Hella's up cheap and both were spots, I would have preferred one as a spread beam but only spots were on offer so I grabbed those.
The light from the HID globes is nothing short of sensational but they do take some time to warm up to full light brightness (about 5-8 seconds).
They are on my Patrol at the moment and when I eventually get a bullbar for my newish 2007 Pajero turbo diesel I'll transfer them over to that as it's the vehicle that will become my long distance tourer in the future.
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Reply By: Mark Howlett - Sunday, Jul 18, 2010 at 19:21

Sunday, Jul 18, 2010 at 19:21
I have the Lightforce Blitz 240's. Originally just had the spots and while great in a straight line, I was blind when doing curvy country roads. Went for one combo cover and while improved thought I would try for another combo. I have to say I am very happy with the result. You still get a good spot with the combo covers, but the spread with 2 is great. I think most people who bag the combo covers have only experienced one, not two.


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Reply By: Woodsey - Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:40

Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:40
Hi Vernp,

I have a pair of the adjustable Blitz Lightforce 240's and a pair of Hella 400's.

The Lightforce far outlight (?) the Hellas.

One great advantage of the Lightforce is that the beam can be adjusted from a beam to a spread. I use a zip tie to make sure the focus does not change.

Fantastic lights and I have never regretted their purchase.

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