Gasmate Stoves - Gas Supply

Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 21, 2010 at 22:24

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MarloweCV3

Planning a trip from Longreach into the Red Centre, down to Coober Pedy, Flinders Range NP, Great Ocean Rd, Blue Mountains NP, New England NP and final back to Brisbane.

We will be camping for 80% of the trip and I have two Gasmate Stoves and two Gas Canister Stoves used on through walks.

I my concern is getting more Gas in the more remote places, can anyone give me advise other than take a lot with us.

Thanks

Richard

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Reply By: Shaker - Wednesday, Jul 21, 2010 at 22:43

Wednesday, Jul 21, 2010 at 22:43

The Gasmate style canisters are fairly readily available, but be prepared to pay about 3 times the amount each that you would pay in the "big smoke".

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Follow Up By: sweetwill - Thursday, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:19

Thursday, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:19

Gday shaker.
as above, they dont take up that much space and suprisingly last a while cheers bill.

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Reply By: yakodi - Thursday, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:27

Thursday, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:27

Gday Marlowe, Here in central Austalia, all we ever take camping is - 2 stoves that use the butane canisters - they are only about $5-10 for a 4 pack in Kmart here. If we are not using the butane we use a fire and camp oven or a swing-away(local product found at the Todd Mall markets). Gas refils will be a little more difficult to come by in the more remote regions. Cheers.

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Reply By: Bushranger1 - Thursday, Jul 22, 2010 at 16:50

Thursday, Jul 22, 2010 at 16:50

G,day Marlowe,
I have been travelling Australia for years, on one occation for 2 years with my family & the best advice I can give you is to purchase the coleman dual fuel stoves. I have one 2 burner for vehicle based camping & the smaller duel fuel for overnight backpacking.

Get yourself a 10L fuel can for the unleaded fuel (my 4WD is diesel hence the separate can) & mix a little injector cleaner with it to keep the stove jets clean.

Those disposable butane cartridges are useless on cold mornings if you don't keep them warm. Let me tell you the unleaded fuel stoves are real cheap to run & never let me down even when snow camping. The only down side is getting used to the yellow flame at startup but as soon as they warm up you will get a nice hot blue flame thats cheaper & much better than gas.
As I have an Engle 12 volt fridge & dual batteries I do not carry gas at all.

Regards
Stuart

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Follow Up By: Member - Longtooth (SA) - Thursday, Jul 22, 2010 at 20:41

Thursday, Jul 22, 2010 at 20:41

Agree thoroughly with this. I should have been a commission agent for these - have mates who once they have seen mine operating have gone out and bought one soon after.

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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Jul 22, 2010 at 21:48

Thursday, Jul 22, 2010 at 21:48

Hi Guys

I find it fascinating how we all have such different views - we have two of those things in the shed and they haven't been used for years since moving to cannisters gas.

It must depend a bit on how you like to do things as the Coleman items really do work well , but with ours , the inability to control heat down low and danger of flare ups put us off.

Marlowe I would buy extra cans and carry them, I suspect they can be like Chardonay and with a bad run you may not pick up any for a week or so.

We rationed ourselves to 1 cannister a day and this way do not run out - but this becomes a bit harder in cold weather as despite using only 80/20 propane versions pretty well every day we would swap cans over to prevent the gas freezing over the last 3 weeks of our most recent trip.

We did find though that almost every roadhouse stop with a bit of a store carried the stuff.

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Follow Up By: G.T. - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 14:59

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 14:59

Robin - Where do you get your 80/20 canisters from? I have`nt seen any locally ( Gold Coast ) maybe they are a regional thing. regards G.T.

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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 17:57

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 17:57

Don't know currently G.T. www.kovea.com make the 70/30 cartridges and a techincally better range of gas appliances as well , but hard to get here.

Emailed them and got local distributor number about 18 months ago (1900 882 058)

Rang them and they said to expensive to import but we got these great 80/20s , so I organized a bulk buy which a few participated in and they sent me 128 cans for under $1 a can so I was pretty happy and don't need any for another year or 3.

Only once or twice since have I seen them at better shops like Paddypalin and once at K-mart , but almost always now its straight butanne only.
Must be still made cause a quick goggle showed them for sale in N.Z.

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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 19:16

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 19:16

We take two of the butane style cookers with us and are generally happy with them as they are compact and lightweight and canisters cheap and easy to come by. Have done a Cape trip and just returned from a Simson Trip with them as a family.
As pointed out they are not good in the cold which was a bit of an issue with the cold Simson mornings so am considering a small coleman style disposable propane type unit for these occassions but if I can get the 80/20 cannisters that would probably solve the problem.

If anyone knows where to get them in Sydney I am keen to find out.

Cheers

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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 19:55

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 at 19:55

Hi Alby

The physics of the situation mean that 80/20s will help but not solve the problem but will help.

A better designed product like Kovea will also help as use a design which passes some heat to cans.

However if you wish to do better with what you have got , then running with 2 cans and swapping them over each 5-10 minutes is practical and will work better - we even modded our stove to achieve assit this process.

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Follow Up By: G.T. - Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 07:54

Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 07:54

Thanks for the info Robin. I am just wondering?? --LOL-- how I can get a suitcase full onto a plane from N.Z.!! Regards G.T.

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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 09:13

Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 09:13

Hi Robin

Thanks for the reply, that is pretty much what we are doing now, once I get a bit of warm water going I sit a canister in it in a cup and that seems to do the trick. I just thought if there was a better option I am up for it!

Thanks

Alby

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