80 Series Headlight Upgrade Query

Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 18:47
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After spending the last 3 days trying to buy a replacement sealed beam low/high beam headlight for my 80 Series Landcruiser, I was tipped onto a pair of Narva Halogen lights. This means I just have to replace globes. SAeemed like a goo dideea at the time.

I have just installed them, and while they seem to work OK, for some reason, the high beam (inside lights) glow like a 'brown out' on low beam and seem dimmer on high beam.

I have not tried to figure it all out, as I can do this tomorrow.

If anyone can offer me any help, advice etc I'd be grateful. The replacement lights I have are 50w/100w. I am no auto electrician.

Thanks in advance.

Jack
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Reply By: Member - Wayne B (NSW) - Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 19:08

Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 19:08
I am just fitting similar to my 80. Throwing out the original sealed beam and replacing then with 50/100w Bulb type. These came with the wrecked 80 1HD-T I bought for the engine.

Sounds to me that you have a poor earth to the lights.

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Reply By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 19:53

Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 19:53
you will have blown your hi beam fuses.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 19:59

Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 19:59
if you connected your sealed beam wiring to the halogen globe, which i'm guessing is a h1 globe. its easier to explain over the phone, email me your phone no to sparkyauto@live.com.au i wll ring and explain how to remedy
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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:28

Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:28
Hi Stuart.

I did just that .. took out the faulty sealed beam and put the new one in.

What a mission! Pulling the grille off and generqal fiddling around. At least if this gets working I only have to reach around the replace a globe, not strip down half the car.

The general concensus is to get a wiring loom, or do the wiring upgrade I got from Lcool.

Can't figure out why it just cannot be replaced. 1991 technology, I guess.

Thanks for you help.

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Reply By: Hairs & Fysh - Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 20:06

Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 20:06
Hi Jack,
I can't find it atm but there was a thread on either LCOOL or Offroad80's where a bloke had upgraded his wiring to take bigger globes.
Unfortunately, He has since passed on, he even lived just up the road from me, so I can't him for you. I will keep looking on both site, He was a member of both of the.
Sorry I'm of not much help, but in the thread he explains every part of the upgrade.
I'll keep looking.


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Follow Up By: Hairs & Fysh - Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 06:37

Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 06:37
I have found two thread that deal with the upgrade for the wiring.
Thread One
Thread Two
Still isn't the thread I was referring to thou. I'll keep looking.

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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:23

Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:23
Thanks. I have found a remedy on Lcool. I thought this was a simple swap over, but it looks more complicated to a non-electrical person like me. Shall let you know what I need to do. Appreciate your input.

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Follow Up By: Hairs & Fysh - Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:21

Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:21
No worries Jack, Hope you get it sorted.

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Follow Up By: Hairs & Fysh - Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 19:34

Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 19:34
Hi Jack,
The fix that you used, is it the one in the link below that I posted to Wayne?
Cheers.

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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 09:26

Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 09:26
The fix I used was to buy a loom from ARB. In the end, I think it will be easier for me to handle that. Time will tell.

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Follow Up By: Hairs & Fysh - Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 19:12

Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 19:12
Just curious as to what you had used.
I'm happy with my standard setup plus a set of Hella 500 Driving Lights.
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Reply By: Member - Alan John C (WA) - Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 20:37

Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 20:37
Hi Jack ARB use to sell a wiring loom upgrade for the 80 series don't know if they still do or not I have one in my box of spares given to me years ago.

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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 09:24

Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 09:24
Hi Alan:

Yes, they still have them. I bought one yesterday. Now to figure out how it all fits together.

The ARB guy said "don't read the instructions, they will only confuse you". Not sure if that is good advice or not.

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Reply By: Member - Wayne B (NSW) - Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 22:24

Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 22:24
As I said in my earlier post I am just going to do the same thing. Now you all have me worried. I would be very interested to know what you end up doing to fix the problem.

Sounds like you are not the only one to experience this problem.

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Follow Up By: ian - Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 22:38

Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 22:38
I had an upgrade kit put in my 80. Wiring and globes. It makes a huge difference and is worthwhile.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:24

Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:24
Hi Wayne:

Yep .. hold off doing anything until I get it all sorted out. Shall let you know, but I think I need an auto electrician as I have no skills or knowledge in this area.

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Reply By: ian - Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 22:37

Wednesday, Jul 28, 2010 at 22:37
Jack
I had an upgrade kit put in my 80. Wiring and globes. It makes a huge difference and is worthwhile.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:25

Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:25
Thanks Ian.

I think I may have to go down the same path. Shall let you know.

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Reply By: Gazal Champion - Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:12

Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:12
Hi Jack,
Replacement lenses which take halogen globes are obtainable from Repco for around $38 per pair, that is 2 hi/lo beam $38 and 2 high beam $38. You then fit your globes. Mine is a 96 model and was already set up for halogens.

You just need to measure the lense size, length and depth to ensure you get the right units..

I changed mine as the reflectors were dull and although job was a bit fiddley it was well worth it. I also liked the price.

You appear to have gone passed this point but I have presented this info for the benefit of others in similar situation.

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Follow Up By: Gazal Champion - Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:15

Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:15
When I referred to lenses I meant Semi Sealed Beams. Sorry if I created confusion.
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Reply By: Member - Wayne B (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 19:18

Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 19:18
Well I fitted the lights and they did the same thing as described in this thread.

I FIXED the problem. Simple really.

I PUT THE OLD LIGHTS BACK IN.

I would like to know the real fix but at this time I am more interested in trying out the 1HD-T then I am about changing the lights :-). That can go on the too do list at a later date.

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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 19:31

Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 19:31
Well done. Unfortunately I could not do so as the reason for this whole debacle was because one of my lights snuffed it. It was in the process of trying to buy a replacement that I ended up with these lights, as nobody had my light in stock.

But ... I went and bought an ARB loom today, so I can have a fun day tomorrow fitting it. EVERYBODY tells me how easy it is. We shall see ...

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Follow Up By: Hairs & Fysh - Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 19:31

Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 19:31
Hi Wayne,
Have you read this before?
80 Series Land Cruiser Headlight Wiring

Is this what your chasing?

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Follow Up By: Member - Wayne B (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 20:16

Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 20:16
Gee thanks John. Me and electrical wiring just do not CONNECT if you know what I mean.

Hay Jack how much is the ARB Loom. :-)

One other question while we are at it. Does anyone know what the sender type unit is that screws into the inlet manifold 1HD-T and 1HZ. It has two wires going to it and there is also a baker-light insulator block. It has a plastic protector over the top of it.

At first I thought it was the temperature sensor but its not as there is no coolant in that area. I think it has something to do with the glow plug timing????

My workshop manual labels every thing including the Dipstick but this sender failed to even rate a mention.

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Wayne

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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 09:28

Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 09:28
Hi Wayne:

ARB loom was $230 all up. This is for a high/low loom and also a high beam loom. Not sure if you can get by with one. Just trying to unravel the mysteries now. I have an auto electrician's number here in case : )

What a mission .. allI wanted was a $15 sealed beam : )

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Follow Up By: Member - Wayne B (NSW) - Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 18:14

Friday, Jul 30, 2010 at 18:14
I replaced a sealed beam in my vehicle about 2 months ago Got it from Auto Pro cheep as chips, cant remember price though

I think I will stick with the standard lights and up grade the Driving Lights.

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Reply By: Hairs & Fysh - Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 20:52

Thursday, Jul 29, 2010 at 20:52
Hi Guys,
Thought you might be interested in a down loadable file of your Toyota models manual.
Downloads Index
I found this a couple of years ago and find it handy to print the page out, that way I don't get oil/grease and crap all over my factory manual.
Or if you have a lap top just take it out to the shed.

If you are also a member of OFFRoad80's they have one page with all manuals HERE

Hope these are of some help guys.

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