Small Offroad Caravans

We need to step up to a more robust caravan than our current(Jayco Outback)
MUST be about 4000mm living space, MUST cook inside, capable of GRR, CApe Leveque road etc. About 1500kg tare.
ONLY two on the shortlist- Trackmaster Gibson/Sturt or Tracktrailer Topaz
Would appreciate any experiences on these two caravans
Specifically- any dust issues?
Any ventilation issues? Especially the Topaz in hot weather?
Any robustness issues with heavy corrugations?
The Topaz has a two frigs- will one battery be enough?
Any Andersen lead issues?
Anyone know of a second hand unit?
Thanks
Bob F
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Reply By: ddr - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 11:47

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 11:47
We are VERY happy with our Trakmaster. No issues with dust except when some dope left a window open in a dust storm.

I havent seen any Gibsons for sale.

Our Anderson plug stays plugged in & works, not sure what types of issues your expecting
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Reply By: WATTS2C - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 11:53

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 11:53
2 fridges off 1 battery is a bit of a big ask - would recommend you think about an extra battery.

cheers

mh
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Follow Up By: frizza99 - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 12:31

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 12:31
So sorry- I missed a critical word---
Should read 2 way frig- 12 and 240V
Bob F
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Follow Up By: carlsp - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 12:50

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 12:50
Hi,

Even a 2 way fridge, I would have to agree with the above comment that one battery is asking too much. At the least another if not 2. If you are a handy person and good at maintaince just get lead acid batteries but gel or AGM would be better. I run 6 x 120 ah glass matt batteries in my van.

We are on the road full time and I have spoken to many people with Supreme getaway owners and they are all happy with all aspects of them. Ones in WA however say the service from the WA dealer is terrible. Not sure which state you are in.
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Follow Up By: WATTS2C - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 13:27

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 13:27
Yep - we recommend AGM.

Most RV's we deal with have a minimum of 2 120Ah batteries, but 3-4 is becoming more and more common.

Depending on where you are we may be able to help...

Martin
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Reply By: Members Pa & Ma. - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 12:05

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 12:05
Hi Frizza 99,
We are looking for same the same but all the ones we've found are too expensive for us at present for what we want to do. A choice we're looking a is the Sturt or the Supreme getaway poptop.
Visit trading post & have a look, there are some good Supremes there but no Trakmaster Gibson or Sturts as of 3 days ago haven't looked today yet. All have double beds which we don't want.
I will probably be hammered for this but about 10 yrs ago we went to Cape Leveque. Magic, however, at the time people were advised not to take trailers or caravans. We didn't because we only had a tent .
We saw a dreadful accident involving a 4by towing a trailer, the trailer flipped and flipped the car with it. It did serious dammage to both car and trailer but the people were only very shaken, The wife was furious...Ruined holiday and they had to get a tow truck out!
There is beaut accomodation or just leave your van at Broome & take a tent.
If you do choose to book accomodation, you'll have to do it well in advance, especially the little waterside shelters you can put your tent in.
Lombadina and Middle Lagoon are nice too.
Take care, safe travells. Ma
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Follow Up By: wendys - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 14:59

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 14:59
We have taken our Trakmaster Kimberley van to Middle Lagoon. No problems. It is the old story - just travel at a speed appropriate to the conditions.
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Reply By: Members Pa & Ma. - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 12:41

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 12:41
Back again Frizza,
There's a Trakmaster Sturt for Sale on trading post on this site.
There's a great Supreme getaway on trading post for 29,450 but it has a double bed.
Regards Ma.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 13:53

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 13:53
Hi Bob

We have met several people who have been happy with the tiny Supreme off-road rear door model (11 or 12 foot i think). No bathroom of course at that size, and bed is sideways too short for us in the narrow van, which is about the same width as a Cruiser or Patrol for bush work.

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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 13:54

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 13:54
PS: Then there is the Kimberley Karavan which is small, unfolds and has all the luxuries.
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Reply By: Shaker - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 15:12

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 15:12
Australian Offroad Campers Quantum or Eclipse, also the Gunyah.
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Follow Up By: Members Pa & Ma. - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 15:26

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 15:26
Hi Wendy's,
that's good to hear.
You would have read where I said that the wife was furious. I think it was with her husband. She was sitting in the bush on a chair facing the other way. We presuned that he must've been speeding but didn't dare ask.
When I asked if they'd like a cup of tea, the bloke said no thanks, I'm getting her one as if there had been a fight but you can't tell really and you don't like to say.
Safe travels, take care. Ma
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Follow Up By: Members Pa & Ma. - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 15:30

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 15:30
Hi Shaker,
Yes, I think they are too but Hubby reckons that they're to low to get into without putting up the top when stopping for a cuppa.
Take care, Safe travels. Ma.
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Reply By: petesgq - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 11:59

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 11:59
Have you looked at an ultimate camper, king size bed dust proof, internal kitchen, and true 5 mins to set up.
Light and aero dynamic.
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Reply By: frizza99 - Saturday, Aug 07, 2010 at 18:10

Saturday, Aug 07, 2010 at 18:10
Thanks to all that have replied- all info and experiences greatly appreciated.

Some comments:
Ultimate rejected a/c too small inside, sick of canvas
Others rejected a/c have to cook outside and/or frig outside(eg Quantum)
Supreme no longer make a small off road van, and their nearest ,at 14'6'', is nearly as dear as a Trackmaster.
Appreciate the battery comments- agree with the need for 2 batteries with the compressor frig. We would be quite happy with a 90L 3 way.
We would forego the outside BBQ and take a small Weber with us.
Think the outside table a good idea.
Would install HWS. Also 16" wheels. Also awning.
On the Gibson/Sturt we like the ventilation ,the light, the layout.
On the Topaz we like the drawer system, dont like the feeling of claustrophobia with the windows that dont open, and shortage of windows
Its a tough call between the 2- would appreciated anyone with a Topaz joining in re dust and robustness.
When we add in our options both are nearly the same price

Please feel free to comment on our thinking!!!!!!!

To be honest, if a good second hand Trackmaster or Topaz came up at the right money we would buy either.

Thanks again to everyone
Bob

PS We took our Jayco Outback to Cape Leveque!
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Saturday, Aug 07, 2010 at 20:07

Saturday, Aug 07, 2010 at 20:07
Frizza,
have a read here:

Thread 76155

Thread is about larger sizes than you are looking for but, underneath the skin, the workmanship is the same.

Scroll down to the photos.



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