advice on gxl cruiser needed

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Have been offered a 4.5lpetrol gxl cruiser 2000 model automatic fitted with torpedo gas tanks and injected gas system immaculate cond ,anyone have any ideas of likely fuel consumption any particular problems,any help appreciated
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Reply By: SUPA105 - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 19:16

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 19:16
If the cruiser is well serviced and tuned, on standard size tyres of close to factory weight and without a roof rack or basket etc...... about 16 ltr per 100 open road....19 ltrs in town......23 ltrs towning depending on weight/size.....now add 25% to these figures for gas.....now add another 10% to this if you go down the modified path as I have.


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Follow Up By: pepper2 - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 19:22

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 19:22
the torpedo tanks appear better than one large tank under the rear ,any prticular problems that you know of ,thankyou for your reply.
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Follow Up By: SUPA105 - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 20:00

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 20:00
The only real issue I can see is you have 2 tanks to get checked at the ? 10 year interville......on the plus side you still have your sub-tank and if you become some what adventurous whilst off-road you dont have the 90ltr conventional tank mounted at the rear dragging between your legs.


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Reply By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 19:50

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 19:50
Hi Pepper. I owned the same model prior to my current Prado. It had a usable 90ltr tank (rated 105ltrs) at the rear and the gas system was the vapor type. I got about 350k from about 85ltrs around town and about 450k on a trip. I once got near 500k. It was a standard GXL vehicle without bullbar and was auto as well. Hope that helps a bit. Bob.

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Reply By: pepper2 - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 20:08

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 20:08
is there any real difference between the 4 speed auto which this is and the 5 speed auto which i believe is the later model?
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 21:06

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 21:06
I dont believe there are any issues with the 4 speed auto, certainly havent heard of any common ones with the A343F.
The A750F 5speed is well proven now to be reliable smooth and strong.
But it only came out in 02 for LC here in oz.

see LCOOL website for info.
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Follow Up By: chisel - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 21:11

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 21:11
I don't know if the 5-speed A750 was ever sold in a 105 (non-ifs). The 4.5L petrol and NA 4.2 diesel are the non-ifs 105 series.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Thursday, Aug 05, 2010 at 08:31

Thursday, Aug 05, 2010 at 08:31
you are absolutely correct, it was only in the IFS LC (and was and is still in other Toyotas)
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Reply By: pepper2 - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 21:20

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 21:20
I guess the real question is will it be as good or go where my 2002 3.0litre patrlol has been with 315000k trouble free k any thoughts ???????????
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 22:39

Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 at 22:39
Yes it will go pretty much everywhere your Patrol did arguably in more comfort & definitely with more power. Highly unlikely it will go 300,000km trouble free particularly if used to tow or off-road as that is rare with any brand running on gas.
Cheers Craig.............
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Reply By: pepper2 - Thursday, Aug 05, 2010 at 08:38

Thursday, Aug 05, 2010 at 08:38
Cackles thankyou for your reply i thought gas powered engines had improved life less carbon in the oil etc ,why do gas powered engines hase lower life expectation.I have neverowned a gas powered vehicle any advice appreciated.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Thursday, Aug 05, 2010 at 10:03

Thursday, Aug 05, 2010 at 10:03
It is only the valve stem seals that give trouble but if the gas system is fitted with a flashlube upper cylinder lube unit then as long as you use the lubricant then it will be trouble free. With the flashlube fitted the spark plugs shouldn't need re gapping just replace every 20,000km and make sure the leads are in good working condition.
Give me a petrol or dual fuel over a diesel anyday, a full petrol engine rebuild can be cheaper than just a diesel fuel pump after a tank of dirty fuel.

My current L/C has the same motor as what you are looking at (1FZ-FE) and has had the head done at 350,000km and the rest including the clutch is still going strong at 401,000km but leaks a bit of oil from the oil pump housing but blows no smoke even after idling for 15 mins.
The reason than modern petrols last as long as the diesels is they have mounds of torque and don't have to be flogged to perform.

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Dave
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Follow Up By: pepper2 - Thursday, Aug 05, 2010 at 10:18

Thursday, Aug 05, 2010 at 10:18
tour boy thank you for your reply,can you confirm fuel figures/running costs on gas etc.The dealer tells me this is an injected gas system installed by toyota and is superior to other aftermarket non injected systems,but i have no first hand knowledge,any advice appreciated.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Thursday, Aug 05, 2010 at 10:29

Thursday, Aug 05, 2010 at 10:29
I have not had an injected gas system only the old style.

60 series manual and auto cruisers had 6cyl and 350 chev 18-22 litres per 100km no flashlube

80 series manual cruisers (had several) 16-20 litres per 100km on gas These have a distributor

105 series manual and auto cruisers (had several) 14-18 litres per 100km on gas these have coil packs for better spark. Manual definately better on fuel.

A GXL will be heavier than an RV so will use more likewise an auto will use more than a manual.
Also my vehicles are heavy with loats of aftermarket gear, muddies and a good lift these things also make any vehicle use more.

The torpedo tanks are the best as you can still fit a 170 lt sub petrol tank giving you 265lt of petrol and 85 usuable gas.

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