What shouldI buy to replace the 80 Series

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Hi guys,

I'm in the market for a new vehicle to replace the old 80 series. The 76 series covers all the bases except for the auto transmission.

A dual cab with some suspension work might do the job.

What are your experiences with dual cab utes.

I realise that with independent front end and leaf springs on the rear they might not have the same off road ability as the 80, but they have probably come a long way since my last dual cab, a 1987 Navara.

Regards
Geoff
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Reply By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 06:57

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 06:57
Hi Geoff. There is not a lot of difference in the internal size between an 80 series and a 120 series Prado. The Prado is almost car like to drive but with all the 4wd advantages. Take one for a drive and see. Regards,Bob

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Reply By: Cruiser 2091 - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 07:50

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 07:50
I was wondering the same thing a couple of years back. Test drove a hi lux cab chassis which was a big step backwards. Noticed also with the dual cabs they have drum rear brakes, another step backwards. Without going any further I decided to keep my beloved 80 series. It has just completed a 20,000 k trip towing my van and didn't miss a beat. So in short I don't think anything currently can replace an 80.
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Reply By: Ray - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 07:51

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 07:51
Stick to the 80ser. You can't beat it
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 08:18

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 08:18
Tend to agree with that Ray - the 76 series has significant narrower track as well as harsh leafs which are probably worse than Navara.

I would however reccomend the Patrol GU 4800 - its really much the same as the 80 , so no real advantage there , but you can buy them today new so have 12 years less wear etc on them.
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Reply By: Member - Mfewster(SA) - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 08:03

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 08:03
It's tempting to answer. A 60's series.
Having had a hi lux dual cab and then going 15 backwards to the 60, I'd stay away from the dual cab, but depending on the work you do with it. If you do really heavy off road with heavy loads, the LCs seem to be much better in the build department. I was forever breaking things when I went off road with the hi lux. The old LC immediately saved me dollars in repair bills and cost almost the same in daily running costs.
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Reply By: Hairs & Fysh - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 08:12

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 08:12
I agree Geoff with Ray,
About the 80.
Spend 15-20K on the 80 and she'd be like new.
Hmmm 87 Navara, you cant compare them to the later model dual cabs, they have come a long way since then.
Really depends on what you what to get of your vehicle. I've toyed with the idea of updating, in s few years time to a 100 series TD, but can't justify the money.
Better the devil I know I guess.
But the choice is yours.

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Reply By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 08:20

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 08:20
As a proud GQ Patrol owner, I'd say stick with the 80. Particularly if you want to go way outback! The electronics can sometimes be a problem in any of the modern cars and you don't need car computer problems in the desert!

Just my opinion.......

Cheers

Brian

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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 08:39

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 08:39
Keep the 80 , if the motor is a bit tired swap the donk for a 6.5 chev thru Brunswick Diesels , If really in need of a DualCab get it cut by CreativeConversions.
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Follow Up By: Member - William H (WA) - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 11:08

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 11:08
yes i agree...Keep your 80, and If your motor is a bit tired, dont swap it for a bucket of bolts, just get it reconditiond and keep driving it, you dont need the problems with a bucket of nut's & bolts...from that place.

Cheers for now...Williamh...Bunbury...WA.
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Reply By: Wilko - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 09:03

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 09:03
Hi Goeff,

1999 model Rodeo You cant beat it lol.

Cheers Wilko
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Reply By: hotfishez - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 09:29

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 09:29
After months of test driving and research I ended up upgrading to a HDJ100 Landcruiser. We looked at the dual cabs but as far as comfort, space, towing, engine choice, dogs, kids, missus it was the only option. We did the dual cab thing but it al came back to the 100.
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Follow Up By: hotfishez - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 09:29

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 09:29
We upgraded from a turbo 80......
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Follow Up By: Drew - Karratha - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 12:42

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 12:42
We have just done the same - upgraded (??) from a 96 80 series (1HZ) to a 2001 100 series TD. We also looked ate dual cab hiluxes - but with 2 kids and as a daily driver werent as practical as a wagon. I now miss my 80 and think I should have stuck with my plan of putting in a new clutch, rebuilding the gearbox, and installing a 1HD-FT engine into it (all up it was going to cost $16000) - I wasnt allowed to do this at the time.................. The 100 series uses more diesel than everyone said it would, and I'm not as keen to take it on the same tracks as I took the 80 (again - not allowed to...................)

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Reply By: OREJAP - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 09:39

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 09:39
I read an article somewhere that a Chinese Engineering company were considering making a copy of the 80 series!! A spokesperson said they considered the 80 series the best 4WD ever made!!! I think that there might be patent & copyright laws involved though but hey if Toyota can copy the 5 speed auto out of a Pajero & get away with it who knows what might happen. I drove the new Triton & Navara and was suitably impressed but not keen on the drum rear brakes though. The comfort & ride was no where near as good as my BIL 80 series which has clocked over 380.000km!!! If you really want a work vehicle & a dual cab, buy a Ford Ranger s/hand or demo...they are real good value for $$$$ and with your savings on an over priced Toyota you could dress the Ranger up Real nice!!
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 10:12

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 10:12
The 80 series only stopped being made in 2008 but in petrol only.
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Follow Up By: Hairs & Fysh - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 10:40

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 10:40
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Follow Up By: Hairs & Fysh - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 10:49

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 10:49
Well there you go

Toyota Land Cruiser

"2008- Last 80-Series vehicle was built in Venezuela which was the only country producing the vehicles after production ended in Japan in 1997"

I guess thats like the XP Falcon was still being made in Argentina up until the end of last century.

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Reply By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 11:03

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 11:03
Geoff,
We have been having the same dilemma for a couple of years now and just keep on ending up at the same place with the same 80 in the garage. I just spent a few hundred bucks on a full detail and have been out spending a few hours here and there touching up paint, re-painting guards and wheel arches etc. I am going to get the wheels redone or have a crack myself. I have again decided that the best new car to get is to keep the old one and put in some TLC to get it looking like new again.

Let us know how you go with your decision?

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Reply By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 13:54

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 13:54
I know this reply should be in the friday funnies but I can't help myself, trade the 80 series in on a GREAT WALL 4X4, millions of chinese can't be wrong lol lol.

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Follow Up By: Member - Geoff H (QLD) - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 14:18

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 14:18
Thanks Daza,

Can you follow me around and tow me home when I need it.

They are good value and if I was driving around town I would consider buying one on price alone.

The trouble is I like to explore some out of the way places and I've had a good run out of Toyotas and Nissans in the past.

Regards
Geoff
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Reply By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 14:41

Friday, Aug 06, 2010 at 14:41
G`day Geoff,

WHY ???

You could always upgrade to a 60 series :>) LOL

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If you want to do any fair dinkum outback off-road stick with your 80, they are the last of the landcruiser wagons that are built anywhere near good enough to handle it. IMHO.

Regards,

Scrubby.
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Reply By: Dan - Yal - Saturday, Aug 07, 2010 at 00:04

Saturday, Aug 07, 2010 at 00:04
Any change over from an 80 series is a down grade.
Biggest mistake of my life was selling the 80series TD

I'm still kicking myself 12 months later

Just don't sell it

Dan
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Reply By: coonick - Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 21:32

Sunday, Aug 08, 2010 at 21:32
As already mentioned keep the 80 and just spend some money on it. There is no upgrade in a Toyota. The 80 was the last decent landcruiser ........FACT !!!!
The only upgrade is a GQ or GU which are an 80`s equal.
As for the chinese recreating the 80 ????????
BWWAAAAAAAHHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA
Never in a million years would the quality be there.
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