Cigerette lighter to cig lighter starting car with flat battery

Submitted: Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 22:16
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Hi

has anyone had experience using the cigerette lighter to cigerette lighter devices which are supposed to recharge a flat battery enough to enable car to be started.

thanks Kc
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Reply By: Member - mazcan - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 22:28

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 22:28
hi kcandco
you'll most likely burn out the cig wiring and or bow fuses and or do a lot of electric damage within the wiring harness

the cig wiring for starters would'nt carry enough amperage
i personely would even consider such an attemp
why would'nt you just buy a decent set of jumper leads and do it the safe and conventional way
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Follow Up By: Rod - Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 00:11

Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 00:11
The ones I have seen limit the current to less than 10 amps and up the voltage above 12.6V to charge the flat battery. Those ones should not burn out any wiring.

I agree that jumper leads appear a better option (faster) but I didn't think that wasn't his real question.
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Reply By: OzTroopy - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 22:38

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 22:38
Better off jump starting with a decent set of leads ...... as the wait time for the recharge via the cig lighters would be a while .... not too mention the fuel cost to the other vehicle.

If the vehicle with the flat battery draws too many amps ... it could well overload the little wiring used for the cig lighter .... as mentioned above.

I trickle charge via the cig lighter with one of those cheapo solar panels ... The process works OK if you have the time.
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 23:11

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 23:11
If your vehicle has dual battery system then all you need is 1 jumper lead, connect the + together.

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Follow Up By: wato35 - Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:09

Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:09
Hi Doug

Is it as simple as that. A vehicle that has a flat batt and has a duel batt system.
Then all you need to do is to put 1 jumper lead between the 2 +'s on the batts and then you can turn in over? Is that right?

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:16

Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:16
Yep, I have 1 jumper lead cut down to 600mm long for easy storage, works on my LC .

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Follow Up By: tdv - Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:21

Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:21
Yep, I've done it. Don't even need the lead, I use the cable from the 2nd battery to the winch. just unhooked from the winch and put it on the starter positive and away she went.
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Sunday, Aug 15, 2010 at 14:59

Sunday, Aug 15, 2010 at 14:59
I used to use one mini (10 cm long) 12v, 15a, jumper lead to connect the 2 terminals of the Rotronics dual battery isolator together, therefore connecting the entire 12v battery system together for solar charging the Cranking battery or assisting the Cranking battery to start the diesel.

Now I just flick this permanently wired 140 Amp auto disconnect switch to achieve the same outcome.
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Reply By: Maîneÿ . . .- Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 07:11

Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 07:11
You say; "cigerette lighter to cigerette lighter devices which are supposed to *recharge* a flat battery enough to enable car to be started"

If it uses so little current not to blow all the fuses etc, it will take all day to recharge the battery, better off to use the 'storage device' your thinking of using to recharge to jump start the vehicle.
(unless it's a solar panel - as it's not a storage device)

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Reply By: kcandco - Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:14

Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:14
Thanks Everyone

Yes I too am a skeptic, but was talking to a friend a few weeks ago who has used one with succcess. He connected the 2 vehicles for a while before starting the dead one. Maybe he's lucky.

cheers Kc
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Reply By: Mandrake's Solar Power- Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:16

Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:16
There's also these Gizmo's - Don't know how effective they are but they supposedly work ...

30 Volt mini battery

Cheers

Steve
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Reply By: Cruiser 2091 - Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:45

Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:45
It seems everyone is falsely assuming you jump start viia a cigarette ligher wire.
The OP said "cigarette lighter to cigarette lighter recharging"

These devices do seem like they would have a use.
http://www.sidewinder.com.au/page61.html

Thinking of getting one myself simply to boost a small camp / backup battery
Regards Cruiser
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Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Saturday, Aug 14, 2010 at 00:17

Saturday, Aug 14, 2010 at 00:17
Nope....but Ive tried cheap jumper leads and they melt, so I wouldn't like your chances of doing it in any sort of a hurray? LOL
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Reply By: Member - Nolo (Brisbane) - Saturday, Aug 14, 2010 at 20:24

Saturday, Aug 14, 2010 at 20:24
I have one sourced from Derek at Sidewinder and they work. Simply connect between the two vehicle cigarette lighter sockets and leave for the four minute timer countdown. It provides enough charge for the vehicle with the flat battery to start. See here. No connection etc

http://www.sidewinder.com.au/page61.html
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Follow Up By: brissle - Sunday, Aug 15, 2010 at 14:06

Sunday, Aug 15, 2010 at 14:06
well that ll depends on how flat the battery is , if dead flat, four minutes wont get your car started
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Sunday, Aug 15, 2010 at 14:46

Sunday, Aug 15, 2010 at 14:46
yes, at the amps stated it will take hours to charge a *flat* battery.
If you need to start a vehicle with a *flat* battery it's quicker to just attach a set of jumper cables to the second battery, and you can start it instantaneously, then you can drive away as planned with minimal delay.

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