Solar controllers

Submitted: Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 20:21
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a video comparison between PWM & MPPT controllers
Watch the AMPS on the top left of gauge, when he changes systems

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Reply By: Member - Tony S (WA) - Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 20:48

Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 20:48
Hi Mainey,

Very interesting. Wouldn't have thought there would have been that much difference. Must find out what my Plasmatronic is.

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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 01:02

Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 01:02
Tony,

Please share your information, what is it ???

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Follow Up By: Member - Tony S (WA) - Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 11:17

Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 11:17
Hi Maîneÿ,

All I can tell you at this stage is that it has PWM and that I can turn it on and off. I usually run it with PWM "off" as it causes interference on distant radio stations when the unit is on float. -- Working from memory as it is along time since I set it.
Don't know the voltages off hand.

I have been playing with the diods in the panels and have found that if you use the Scottky diodes you get more grunt. Eg with the standard diode you got say 6 amps, with the schotty the output was say 7.5 plus amps.
The only problem was they are so fiddley and if you are not careful the terminals brake.

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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Saturday, Aug 14, 2010 at 08:18

Saturday, Aug 14, 2010 at 08:18
You are right Mainey, the MPPT charger is much more efficient.

That is consistent with what I observe and ( dare I say it) been knocked on ths forum.

20W of charging power from the PWM verses 28W for the MPPT that's 20% more efficent. More current INTO the battery. You can get up to 30% more when the battery is low and the panel is cold in the morning when you need it most.





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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 19:11

Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 19:11
I believe you have to compare apples with apples here with the technology available at present, yes it's indisputable the mppt controllers put more into the battery in the early morning and late afternoon (low light conditions) when it really *IS* needed, because the fridge, tv and lights etc have been using up the 12v battery power, when not being charged, over-night.

But... the charge contained in the battery system late each day, at *nightfall* is still the same, being 100% charged, when charged in realistic camping conditions and using an efficient PWM charge controller.

Once the battery system is *fully charged* it's charged, no more charge will go in even when available, doesn't matter what style, type (12v or 240v) of charging system is used.

That said, yes I will get a MPPT controller, when I find one that's more user friendly and efficient than the Steca I presently use :)

This photo clearly shows what I'm saying, there is 11.8 Amps being produced by the solar system, but only half an Amp (O.5a) going into the fully charged battery system.

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Reply By: Nic I - Sunday, Aug 15, 2010 at 08:14

Sunday, Aug 15, 2010 at 08:14
Is there a brand/model of MPPT controller of 20-30A capacity with switching and display features similar to the Steca PR series ?

Also, is there the above but with a DC>DC charge controlling function for alternator charging as well ?

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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 18:29

Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 18:29
Nic,
after some looking for one for myself, I still can't find one I would buy *at this point in time* so it's a wait and see situation for me to see who brings out what.

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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 21:59

Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 21:59
The Outback 60 will do 60Amps. and display all you need, Even on a PC with the right interface.
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 22:02

Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 22:02
Yes,
at a price of @ $1,2OO (each) it has to be able to do something reasonable

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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 22:12

Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 22:12
Or $300 if you buy it correctly.
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 22:14

Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 22:14
Hey
don't tease me :)

put up the link PLEASE

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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 23:14

Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 23:14
Sorry Mainey but I am overseas right now and don;t have the paperwork. But I got it in the US. I found it with google. There are a few with a reasonable price. ( Also I have had it 2 years).

Fantastic unit. LOL
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Reply By: Maîneÿ . . .- Sunday, Aug 15, 2010 at 08:50

Sunday, Aug 15, 2010 at 08:50
Something else in the same solar power theme

* Inverters *

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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Sunday, Aug 15, 2010 at 09:13

Sunday, Aug 15, 2010 at 09:13
Wow, how bad is that video.

It contains quite a bit if bad advice and errors,worst, it is very dangerous.

1)You can run a Deep cycle down to completely flat all the time as it is designed for that.
2)You can plug a modified sinewave inverter as shown into the mains panel of your home!!!!!!!
3)Check out the nail through the mains cord attaching it to the wall at 7:34

The one I love is when he spells out Kilowatts.

"K i l l o watts"

Correct spelling in that video's case.

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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Sunday, Aug 15, 2010 at 15:16

Sunday, Aug 15, 2010 at 15:16
He wasn't actually spelling out kilowatts rather the product called "kill a watt" shown in the next couple of minutes of the video.

An "interesting" video indeed :)

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Reply By: Maîneÿ . . .- Sunday, Aug 15, 2010 at 09:00

Sunday, Aug 15, 2010 at 09:00
Solar panel - wiring configurations


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Reply By: link - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 22:28

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 22:28
Technology at its best....i was trying to find out what it did...........see even engineers get set in their ways, opened my eyes
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:23

Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:23
Trying "to find out what it did" what is "it" in reference too ?

Obviously one of the links, but which one ?

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