Lithium Battery Warning

So what was inside the battery??????..................

Bob,

How many times have you been told not to play with scissors?


Wayne

g'day Toyocrusa,
This one should have been in the Friday funnies, i have had a great laugh after reading the thread and replies.Glad to see you almost found out what makes them batteries work, better luck next time.
I guess that's what they did with all those old fire crackers, when they banned cracker night.
Cheers John.

Does the GPS work now with the new battery

From Graham

This reminds me of the early 90s the Army introduced a new radio that used lithium batteries,when flat they were suposed to be returned to the supply battalion,of course being infantry we collected these things untill we had a couple of full pallets on the back loading dock. People would sit on them,climb on them and thow them a each other. I rang the supply mob to see what to do with them and they asked if any were leaking (a green slime that dries to a solid) I said about 10% and they said OK.
About 3 minutes later a fire engine arrives under full lights and sirens and out jump the firies all dressed in the full yellow suits and air tanks. The area was cordoned off the batteries were wrapped in plastic they loaded them onto a truck with a forklift and drove the lot away,they had to decontaiminate the area ,truck and forklift and took air samples and swabs before allowing any access to the area.
We understood from this that lithium can be quite dangerous.

Below are some of the problems that may be encountered with lithium batteries,and they classed as dangerous goods for air travel and post.
To dispose of throw them in a fire and run like hell, they go off like a 1 1/4 lb slab of TNT.

Explosion
–Unintentional charging by end item
??Venting, possibly under high pressures
??Release of hazardous materials
–Noxious, toxic or hazardous gases
–Strong acids or bases (liquid or gas)
–Flammable gases and liquids
??Fire

Cell defects or abuse may result in ventings that may be high pressure events producing shrapnel
??Release of internal pressure from a cell by ejecting some or allof its internal components into the environment
–These components may be flammable and may include noxious gasses
•Li/SO2battery releases acutely toxic and flammable gases
•Li/MnO2battery releases flammable gases
–A venting of a lithium ion battery may release
•Flammable organic electrolyte (e.g. PC-EC-DMC)
•LiPF6--this material is reactive with water; forms HF acid
•Carbon either as carbon or water reactive lithiated graphites
•LiNiCoO2or other lithiated oxides and heavy/transition metals
•Metal foils and fragments (copper or aluminum)
•Methane, hydrogen, carbon monoxide (electrolyte decomposition products)
??Ventings may be accompanied by smoke, sparks and or flames

Righto Bob, you are banished from pulling apart anything without prior posting on forum, you will need to write out a work safety card, and submit it 24 hours prior and with a written request. You are not allowed to use scissors, and please refrain from exprimenting inside the house. If we all "EO" member agree to your exprimenting, then permision will be granted for said expriment in a suitable location, place and with emergency staff and proper PPE.

P.S this was said in jest, don't take to heart.

Litium ion batteries are suseptible to moisture, copious amounts of water.

But funny stuff asisde its great that your still alive, you didn't burn the house down, and all you got apart from 1 1/2 hours of cleaning and a scorch mark, is battered ears from the betroved for doing said deed in the house.

thanks for the tip on not what to do with LIon batteries.

p.s. use a ceramic scapel next time....

LOL

Aren't these the batteries that they use in environmental friendly cars?
Better not tell Bob Brown.

Honky

Is there a simple or safe way these batteries could be used or modified in fishing by being used as "expanding bait", especially in desperate situations, or are the contents too toxic to contemplate?
Cheers