Kimberley's ??

Hi all,
I was in the Kimberley last week and noticed lot's of people on the road and on here talking about "the Kimberleys". Is there another one and I missed it? C'mon Australia. We don't talk about the Ayres Rocks, The Red Centres, The Murray Rivers or the Cape Yorks. There is but one Kimberley.


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Reply By: Motherhen - Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:42

Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:42
And one Bungle Bungle Range.

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Follow Up By: cobber - Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:48

Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:48
What about Mt Augustus (WA) it is the world's largest Monocline in the world.
Mt Augustus is 8km long, 3 km wide and 858 metres high and in total 1105 metres above sea level, while Ayres Rock is 3.6km long 2.4km wide and 348.7 metres high.
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Follow Up By: Member - TJ (VIC) - Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:52

Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:52
and Cobber your point is???????
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:55

Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:55
errrrr - it ends in S?
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Reply By: Shaker - Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:53

Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:53
If you want to be pedantic, it's Ayer's Rock.
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Follow Up By: Member - TJ (VIC) - Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:55

Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:55
My point wasn't about apostrophes.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:56

Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:56
To be pendantic it is Uluru.
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Follow Up By: Member - TJ (VIC) - Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:58

Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:58
Touche'. (I hope the accent is in the right place.)
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Follow Up By: Member - Boeing (PER) - Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 23:13

Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 23:13
And Uluru is a monolith not a monocline which is what Mt Augustus is. Uluru is the largest monolith in the world.
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Follow Up By: cobber - Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 23:21

Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 23:21
Hi Motherhen, The NT Main Roads sign at the turn off Stuart/Lasseter Hwy also says to Ayres Rock
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 00:07

Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 00:07
Mount Augustus holds the title as the largest monolith, > twice the size of Uluru.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 00:12

Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 00:12
As pedanticism seems to be the only thing this thread has in common with Mt Augustus, Mt Augustus is a monocline, not a monolith. Again a common misnomer.

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 09:29

Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 09:29
QUOTE: "My point wasn't about apostrophes."

Look closer!

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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:20

Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:20
To be totally accurate Mt Augustus is an asymmetric anticline (one arm of the fold dips steeply, the other is shallow), and it is also a monolith.
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Follow Up By: Member - Laurie K (WA) - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 22:51

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 22:51
I'm sorry Bazooka, but you are half right. The rock is as you describe, but it is a Monocline, not a monolith. refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Augustus_National_Park and hopefully, the attached photo taken at the rock, which also describes the Mount as a monocline

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Follow Up By: Member - Laurie K (WA) - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 22:54

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 22:54
Sorry baz, I think the photo was too big. But will resize and upload if required. :-)

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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 23:27

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 23:27
Laurie
Geologically speaking there is a (significant) difference between a monocline and an asymmetric anticline (which is how the Geol Survey of WA describe it I believe). Haven't seen the geological map of the area but I'd be interested to see what fold symbol was used to depict the structure. Have a look at p19 (13) of this Geoscience Australia PDF if you are really interested in geol folds: http://www.ga.gov.au/servlet/BigObjFileManager?bigobjid=GA17066.

Whether Mt Augustus can be decribed (accurately) as a monolith is a moot point though, I'll grant you that (a monolith being a single big lump of rock, so to speak). Geologically speaking, it ain't, but from a layman's point of view he might reasonably call it one. As to the claim that it is the world's biggest monolith, well let's just say that it has a nice ring to it.
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Friday, Aug 20, 2010 at 00:06

Friday, Aug 20, 2010 at 00:06
Laurie
Just had a look on GSWA's Geoviewer online application. The 1:100K geol map shows Mt Augustus as an anticline plunging at both ends, which appeqars to confirm the asymmetric anticline description I read elsewhere some time ago.

Have a look at the viewer if you get a chance, it is a great little piece of mapping technology and GSWA has geology and topography layers (and a whole lot more) available. GeoVIEW.WAhttp://www.dmp.wa.gov.au/7113.aspx#7116 .

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Reply By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:58

Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:58
JUst a brief response from one who has lived in the Kimberleys all his life. There is the West Kimberley and the East Kimberley.Broome, Derby and around that area is known as the West Kimberley, and Halls Creek, Fitzroy Crossing through to kunurra and the NT border is known as the East Kimberley. I believe it is more a quarantine factor than a geographical factor.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boeing (PER) - Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 23:18

Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 23:18
Marc, you are right it is a quarantine factor rather than geographical.
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Reply By: Joe Grace Doomadgee - Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 23:03

Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 23:03
we lived in the Kimberleys, 2 years of awsome fun, and hard work i may add, lived on the beach, well about 500m back from the high tide mark and 1500m back from the low tide mark...............
Will visit the "Kimberly" next time we go past but not to sure where it is ????
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Reply By: Member - Josh (TAS) - Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 23:18

Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 23:18
When we were up there we met 3 Kimberley's. Can't remember their last names though. You weren't being friendly enough if you couldn't find the Kimberley's. lol. Seriously does it matter, I thought it was Australian to change/shorten words.

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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 23:21

Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 23:21
"I thought it was Australian to change/shorten words."

It sure is Joshs from Tasmanias, also Joes and Boeings. ;)
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Follow Up By: Member - Josh (TAS) - Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 23:30

Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 23:30
HA HA HA HA HA nice. How is life treating you motherhen. Hope all is well.

Josh
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Follow Up By: Member - TJ (VIC) - Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 23:42

Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 23:42
"Seriously does it matter".

Yes.

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Follow Up By: Off-track - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 00:25

Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 00:25
Nope.
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Follow Up By: Member - Josh (TAS) - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 07:51

Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 07:51
Why does it matter??? Hundreds of places around oz (oops I mean Australia) are not said correctly. Wagga Wagga is often called Wagga, particulary by the locals, Surfers paradise is just Surfers, Cape york is the tip, Tassie is the other island lol. All that matters is that we still have these amazing places to go to. The Kimberleys or the kimberly doesn't matter, it's still one of the best places on earth.

Josh
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Follow Up By: Member - TJ (VIC) - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 23:05

Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 23:05
But they are nicknames not mispronunciations. A nickname for the the Kimberley might be the Kim's.
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Follow Up By: Member - Josh (TAS) - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 08:17

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 08:17
Well my nickname for the Kimberley is the Kimberlies so I guess that makes it official, it is ok to call them the Kimberleys lol.

Josh

Ps. I don't really see that it is that big an issue, call it what you want to.
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Follow Up By: Member - TJ (VIC) - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 22:00

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 22:00
You are the only person saying this is a big issue. I just wanted to know what was correct. This appears to be a good place to ask such a question as it has generated a number of responses and I am now convinced that the correct name is the Kimberley. There is an East Gippsland and a West Gippsland but it is still Gippsland. Kimberleys or Kimberlies is incorrect.
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Follow Up By: Off-track - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 22:59

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 22:59
I actually thought that you were the one making a big issue and saying it seriously does matter, TJ.

Let it go mate and let people make their own minds up.
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Reply By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 23:42

Tuesday, Aug 17, 2010 at 23:42
I must seriously enquire as to all the pedanticity in peoples responses. Someone asks a very reasonable question, in what I would call a good site for travelling information.

The Kimberley region is definitely, for quaratine purposes (predominantly fruitfly), made up of the East Kimberley and the West Kimberley, hence the two Kimberleys. Why confuse such a simple issue with pedanticity. Australia is a beautiful country, use the brain cells to explore and find your country at its' best.

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Follow Up By: cobber - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 00:10

Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 00:10
I agree Marc
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Reply By: get outmore - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 00:20

Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 00:20
marcs correct there are 2 kimberlies east and west therfore its the kimberlies


we dont refer to the godfields as the goldfeild do we?

there are eastern and southern goldfields
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 18:11

Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 18:11
Which of the Pilbaras do you work or travel in get outmore?
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 22:06

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 22:06
used to work in the East Pilbarras

---- next question?
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Reply By: Maîneÿ . . .- Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 00:48

Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 00:48
I believe it's 'the Kimberley' (singular) with out the "s"

Being the East or West Kimberley is just part of a larger area known as the Kimberley.

Maîneÿ . . .
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Reply By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 00:59

Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 00:59
What about just agreeing that it is a beautiful area of Australia. If you haven't seen it, have the absolute poleasure one day of travelling through this area and seeing it.

Whatever you wish to call this beautiful area I know as the Kimberley's, the flora, fauna and terrain make it a worthwhile trip, and an experience to be had and remembered.

Safe travels everyone.
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Reply By: Muntoo - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 01:45

Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 01:45
There are also places called East Perth, South Perth, West Perth.

But we dont say, Going on a holiday to the Perth's.

Like they say, there is only one Kimberley.

I've lived all over the Kimberley my entire life, and will only ever call it the Kimberley. The only reason East and West exist is because of the shires.

And because the East is way better then the West.
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Follow Up By: kimberleybloke - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 22:37

Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 22:37
Im another born and bred KIMBERLEY bloke of more than 57 wet seasons,it has always been Kimberley,whether you come from the east or west(Muntoo,I cant agree the east is better ha-ha) This argument always seems to come from outsiders,We even refer to ourselves as Kimberley people rather than West Australians.Anyway whatever you others want to call us,doesnt matter,we know who we are!
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Reply By: Member - Noel K (NT) - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 07:55

Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 07:55
In Mary Durack's book "Kings in Grass Castles" she and her for- fathers always refer to the area as Kimberly, ie:- back too Kimberley, or leaving Kimberley.

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Reply By: Member - Geoff H (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:43

Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:43
Oh No

Will this be as big as the argument on whether you can call your 4x4 a TRUCK or not.

I will watch with interest.

Thanks
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Follow Up By: ob - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:57

Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:57
Right on TJ, some pendantophiles have way too much time on their hands.....lol

ob
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Reply By: Fred G NSW - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 16:33

Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 16:33
Here is a good site on the "Kimberley region."The Kimberley
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Follow Up By: Fred G NSW - Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 16:36

Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 at 16:36
That actually became 2 good links :-)
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